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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-25 08:05 [#01926959]
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There is a lot of talk of evolution and such on this board, by people at least semi-educated in these matters.
So what do the more scientifically minded amongst us think about this theory?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Earth_hypothesis (I know wikipedia is hardly comprehensive, but it gives us laymen a rough idea.)
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DaggerHappy
from Australia on 2006-06-25 08:11 [#01926960]
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so you think you're more educated than me?
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-25 08:19 [#01926961]
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No. I'm asking people who are more educated than me what they think.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-06-25 08:27 [#01926964]
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Our problem is we're made of meat.
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DaggerHappy
from Australia on 2006-06-25 08:28 [#01926965]
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in that case i can tell you that...
a gas cloud capable of giving birth to a star can also give rise to gas giant (Jovian) planets like Jupiter and Saturn. But Jovian planets have no hard surface of the kind believed necessary for complex life (their satellites may have hard surfaces, though). Hence a planetary system capable of sustaining complex life must be structured more or less like the solar system, with small and rocky inner planets, and Jovian outer ones.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-25 08:29 [#01926967]
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yeah, i know all this shit. this is the sort of stuff i want to go into with a planetary geology course - finding planets around other stars and seeing what you can find out about them from their movements and spectra etc.
i am a subscriber - i think life of any kind is rare but does exist on other planets, and i doubt very much that we will ever make contact with any other civilisation. but its all speculation and i know that i cant [yet] prove any of it.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-25 08:33 [#01926969]
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Yeah, people want to believe in intelligent aliens because it makes life more exciting for them.
So any sort of rational debate about extraterrestrial life goes out of the window.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-25 08:35 [#01926970]
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and if there is intelligent life, it means we can have wars with them and have bruce willis and people like that flying space fighters and firing photon torpedos amd making big explosions while getting really hot and sweaty and taking their shirts off.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-25 08:37 [#01926971]
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Is there a lot of debate in the scientific community regarding the scarcity of life in the universe?
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-25 08:40 [#01926972]
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dunno really, its not a topic i know that much about yet, but there are plenty of predictions and formulas predicting the likeliness of civilisations existing on various planets etc.
the whole life thing will step up a gear within the next few decades when we become able to detect earth-size planets around other stars. currently we can find big jupiter-size extrasolar planets and take spectra of their atmospheres, but fiding earth-size planets is more relevant to life.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-25 10:05 [#01927025]
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It's entirely possible that a group of super intelligent beings are observing our entire existence in some sort of cosmic petri dish.
maaaannnnn......
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-06-25 10:07 [#01927027]
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there supposedly is also a tree that makes beeping noises.
perhaps it can beep the truth.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-25 10:08 [#01927028]
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Now you're just being silly.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-06-25 10:09 [#01927030]
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no.
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big
from lsg on 2006-06-25 10:10 [#01927031]
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post samples, someone here sure can decode them
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-25 10:14 [#01927033]
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i have a spaceship in my garden,if you wish i can take somebody to mars for a game of football.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-25 10:14 [#01927034]
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you have to chip in for fuel tho
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2006-06-25 21:37 [#01927256]
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haha! that was amazing!
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2006-06-25 21:56 [#01927260]
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i agree.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-06-25 22:08 [#01927262]
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heh... that's cute.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-06-25 22:15 [#01927264]
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I just watched the meat video while shrooming and it was fantabulous.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-06-25 22:16 [#01927265]
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That meat story was floating around on the internets years ago as a text file.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-06-25 23:06 [#01927281]
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I read most of this, and it felt like as I was reading it, I was somewhat agreeing to the extent that it was a common sense I didn't even need to divulge in. I came to a conclusion last night, whilst high and panicing at the thoughts we shouldn't even try to think, that the absolute truth (devoid of subjective conscious perception) is very simple (astronomical and geological happenings) and would not cater to a human's self worth and hope. Let's just live like village idiots and enjoy the weather on a good day.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-26 00:16 [#01927296]
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there is always the option that the aliens just don't give a fuck about us.
i mean that's pure humanity that we always want to discover everything, harvest as much as possible and be friends with alltogether just to take their new technologies and maybe kill them afterwards.
so i guess that if there is inteligent life out there who received our messages then they must have a good laugh about those 8 bit drawings we sent them.
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pigster
from melbs on 2006-06-26 00:51 [#01927308]
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That's like in 1994 when scientists found small puppy-like animals carelessly running around on the surface of Mars.
Humans, of course, only had one option. We sent in 4 space ships with astronauts equipped with machine guns, grenades and a hidden knife strapped around their left foot.
Wasn't long before that alien puppy-like civilization was destroyed and the human race was one step closer to ruling the universe.
I'm not sure how many people know of this, but I have family friends who work for the government and it just so happens to be quite true.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-26 01:50 [#01927328]
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anyone know what happened about those martian bacteria in that meteorite from antarctica? apparently they are too small to be bacteria, and i havent heard anything else about the whole thing.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-06-26 02:01 [#01927332]
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didn't land in the right spot apparently, we did.
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vveerrgg
from life (Canada) on 2006-06-26 08:06 [#01927478]
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So I guess moving to another planet is alot harder if we're a rare earth. This whole time I was planning a Parliament Funkadelic reunion and have them take the whole show up and somewhere else with their space funk.....
hmmm..... scratch that idea of the list of things to do this year.
guess I'll just stayin and mess with filter cutoffs.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-06-27 05:42 [#01928010]
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ok
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-06-27 05:43 [#01928011]
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nice; wow; incredibe information absorbed; message understood
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-06-27 10:16 [#01928185]
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How about just sticking them in an elevator with Kraftwerk?
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