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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:02 [#01925006]
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okay - i panically need a new proper audio interface.
the ones which come to mind
focusrite saffire le looks good, love focusrite but there are absolutely no test's with it and there is absolutely NO software bundled with it so other interfaces at the same price seem more interesting. but i like the rugged interface and the big screwed jack outputs. I/O is also ok.
esi quatafire 610 interesting piece of hardware - the most packed and compact interface - even 2x2 midi which is really important in my case. also the software suite is much more interesting - they added a few programs like the tassman and ableton. one firewire port is not much but that is not that important.
firewire 410 probably the most popular piece of gear. vladislav delay even uses two of them. but the two inputs sem a bit less and on the other hand - m-audio still isn't a "pro" company in my eyes...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:02 [#01925007]
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ozonic um... i'm a bit afraid of this one. seems much to perfect. i mean it has everything that i would want - much controllers, 37 keys (which imho is the best solution for live) 4/4 I/O with preamp and much more things... um seems just to perfect to be good.
e-mu 1616 the most expensive yet most interesting solution. on-board dsp, the most intputs (6) and a great software suite. and then there is this option that you can use the cardbus without the whole external thingie. rockin. would be perfect if they would add 2 outputs to make them 8 and i wouldn't hesitate to buy it. but i heard that the patchmix program is a bitch and the thing is quite complicated to control.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:03 [#01925008]
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anyone got one of those ? could you share your thoughts ??
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:04 [#01925010]
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proper ozonic link
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:08 [#01925014]
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hm - i found this one presonus firebox a minute ago. the new price seems awesome.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-22 08:10 [#01925015]
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I've got the e-mu 1820, and it works great! lots of ins and outs, many more than other cards in its class plus almost no latency. I haven't used the 1616, but I'm assuming you need something for a laptop and thus can't have the 1820. patchmix isn't that much trouble just a bit nonsensical at times.. there have been problems with my card, but nothing that couldn't be fixed.. no-one seems to know why the problems occur, but getting help is easy and their customer service is both quick and effective.. also, there's a forum for their products at productionforums where there are lots of people with experience plus people who actually work at emu. You could look there and ask for more information and experiences with the 1616.. and probably the other cards too as they have a regular hardware section.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:20 [#01925026]
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also a thing to consider - that e-mu forum seems quite well-suited.
the 1616 is alsmot the same as the 1820 technically. the same preamps and ad/da converters.
i would want some nice comparison between all those interfaces.
i mean this is such a expensive thing and a very important for me as i want to use this interface for professional use in some time to, maybe a studio and so on.
when it comes to this the 1616 wins again with it's adat port. i could buy a behringer digital 8 preamp interface with adat and then i'll have 14 analog ins and 14 analog outs... quite interesting i guess
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:22 [#01925029]
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tell me something about that dsp chip - is it really useful or just a nice feature? the sound samples seem nice. reverb and dynamics/compression would be the most important for me.
also - is the dsp open source? i mean can i write my own programs for it?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-22 09:04 [#01925069]
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yeah, the effects are actually quite good, and if you don't want to apply them to the in signal (I prefer recording dry, so I rarely use them for recording, but you can have them so that they don't affect the signal before it goes out, so you record dry and hear what it'll sound like effected), you can also get a small software thingie that'll let you apply them in your favorite program. I haven't tried it yet, as it costs some more money I think...
I think, if you're going to use this as a studio thing, it is probably the one with the best sound quality over all, and the number of ins and outs are a big plus.. especially the turntable in that will let your plug in your turntable directly if you want to record vinyl without unneccessary extra links in your setup.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 09:09 [#01925078]
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i would want to build a live setup without a external big mixer.
so i just wound want to stuff two aux channels with different reverbs and then send the outcoming signals to them.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-22 09:30 [#01925097]
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I'm not sure what that means, but you can have effects on all channels and on master mix.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-06-22 09:34 [#01925100]
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go for the emu!!!!!!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 09:36 [#01925105]
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make it like this - keep outputs 1,2 clean, add a reverb on 3,4 and a delay on 5,6.
now in ableton 1,2 would be routed as the master ouput and 3,4 and 5,6 would be used as send channels.
then just a simple analog mikser with three stereo inputs and we are ready to go
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-22 09:40 [#01925113]
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oh, right effect sends? the patchmix allows for the creation of effect loops (you insert an fx send to a physical source which then goes through an fx chain of your own selection and then a second input is used as the fx return) and it has two built in different fx chains with each their return knob plus master effects. in other words, you wouldn't need to use any outputs or mixer strips for the effects. I'm not sure if that answers what you're after, I'm a bit confused by your question if there even is one.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 09:49 [#01925130]
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lol - hard to explain really :D
but i guess the patchmix cannot be controlled with midi?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-22 09:50 [#01925135]
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I haven't tried, really, but I don't think so, as I haven't seen any midi mapping settings or anything.. it could be a good idea to suggest to the e-mu people, though...
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