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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:02 [#01925006]
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okay - i panically need a new proper audio interface.

the ones which come to mind

focusrite saffire le
looks good, love focusrite but there are absolutely no
test's with it and there is absolutely NO software bundled
with it so other interfaces at the same price seem more
interesting. but i like the rugged interface and the big
screwed jack outputs. I/O is also ok.

esi quatafire 610
interesting piece of hardware - the most packed and compact
interface - even 2x2 midi which is really important in my
case. also the software suite is much more interesting -
they added a few programs like the tassman and ableton. one
firewire port is not much but that is not that important.

firewire 410
probably the most popular piece of gear. vladislav delay
even uses two of them. but the two inputs sem a bit less and
on the other hand - m-audio still isn't a "pro" company in
my eyes...



 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:02 [#01925007]
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ozonic
um... i'm a bit afraid of this one. seems much to perfect. i
mean it has everything that i would want - much controllers,
37 keys (which imho is the best solution for live) 4/4 I/O
with preamp and much more things... um seems just to perfect
to be good.

e-mu 1616
the most expensive yet most interesting solution. on-board
dsp, the most intputs (6) and a great software suite. and
then there is this option that you can use the cardbus
without the whole external thingie. rockin. would be perfect
if they would add 2 outputs to make them 8 and i wouldn't
hesitate to buy it. but i heard that the patchmix program is
a bitch and the thing is quite complicated to control.



 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:03 [#01925008]
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anyone got one of those ? could you share your thoughts ??


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:04 [#01925010]
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proper ozonic link


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:08 [#01925014]
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hm - i found this one presonus firebox a minute ago. the new
price seems awesome.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-22 08:10 [#01925015]
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I've got the e-mu 1820, and it works great! lots of ins and
outs, many more than other cards in its class plus almost no
latency. I haven't used the 1616, but I'm assuming you need
something for a laptop and thus can't have the 1820.
patchmix isn't that much trouble just a bit nonsensical at
times.. there have been problems with my card, but nothing
that couldn't be fixed.. no-one seems to know why the
problems occur, but getting help is easy and their customer
service is both quick and effective.. also, there's a forum
for their products at productionforums where there are lots of
people with experience plus people who actually work at emu.
You could look there and ask for more information and
experiences with the 1616.. and probably the other cards too
as they have a regular hardware section.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:20 [#01925026]
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also a thing to consider - that e-mu forum seems quite
well-suited.

the 1616 is alsmot the same as the 1820 technically. the
same preamps and ad/da converters.

i would want some nice comparison between all those
interfaces.

i mean this is such a expensive thing and a very important
for me as i want to use this interface for professional use
in some time to, maybe a studio and so on.

when it comes to this the 1616 wins again with it's adat
port. i could buy a behringer digital 8 preamp interface
with adat and then i'll have 14 analog ins and 14 analog
outs... quite interesting i guess


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 08:22 [#01925029]
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tell me something about that dsp chip - is it really useful
or just a nice feature? the sound samples seem nice. reverb
and dynamics/compression would be the most important for me.


also - is the dsp open source? i mean can i write my own
programs for it?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-22 09:04 [#01925069]
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yeah, the effects are actually quite good, and if you don't
want to apply them to the in signal (I prefer recording dry,
so I rarely use them for recording, but you can have them so
that they don't affect the signal before it goes out, so you
record dry and hear what it'll sound like effected), you can
also get a small software thingie that'll let you apply them
in your favorite program. I haven't tried it yet, as it
costs some more money I think...

I think, if you're going to use this as a studio thing, it
is probably the one with the best sound quality over all,
and the number of ins and outs are a big plus.. especially
the turntable in that will let your plug in your turntable
directly if you want to record vinyl without unneccessary
extra links in your setup.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 09:09 [#01925078]
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i would want to build a live setup without a external big
mixer.

so i just wound want to stuff two aux channels with
different reverbs and then send the outcoming signals to
them.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-22 09:30 [#01925097]
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I'm not sure what that means, but you can have effects on
all channels and on master mix.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-06-22 09:34 [#01925100]
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go for the emu!!!!!!


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 09:36 [#01925105]
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make it like this - keep outputs 1,2 clean, add a reverb on
3,4 and a delay on 5,6.

now in ableton 1,2 would be routed as the master ouput and
3,4 and 5,6 would be used as send channels.

then just a simple analog mikser with three stereo inputs
and we are ready to go


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-22 09:40 [#01925113]
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oh, right effect sends? the patchmix allows for the creation
of effect loops (you insert an fx send to a physical source
which then goes through an fx chain of your own selection
and then a second input is used as the fx return) and it has
two built in different fx chains with each their return knob
plus master effects. in other words, you wouldn't need to
use any outputs or mixer strips for the effects. I'm not
sure if that answers what you're after, I'm a bit confused
by your question if there even is one.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-06-22 09:49 [#01925130]
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lol - hard to explain really :D

but i guess the patchmix cannot be controlled with midi?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-06-22 09:50 [#01925135]
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I haven't tried, really, but I don't think so, as I haven't
seen any midi mapping settings or anything.. it could be a
good idea to suggest to the e-mu people, though...


 


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