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Various types of Domination. Personal, sexual, emotional, artistic, political, physical, whatever. The urge to be the best at something or to control others. While it's caused untold misery and chaos, we would probably still be sitting in caves scratching our protruding brows without it. But, this is just kids stuff. It gets a lot more complicated than that. |
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it's basically what capitalism is |
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art.. yes art is the purpose of life.. it brings more meaning to this existance so perhaps it can be considered its meaning too. |
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calling it purpose is just shifting the weight as purpose also requires intent. |
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Not necessarily...feudal systems and state communism have been just as rooted in domination just as much if not more than contempory Kapital. |
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yeah, and? |
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intent implies creation |
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not in my head.. explain what you mean. from the beginning. the questions "what is the meaning of life?" and "what is the purpose of life?" are essentially the same, although the second is worded better. |
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i just think saying "purpose" is more direct. like, "what's the point in life?" - i see what you're saying but it doesn't directly advocate a creator. i think what we all want to know is "why are we here!?" |
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that was directed to mastah by the way |
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no, they're not the same.. both deal with intentions, but not the same. meaning is what you may understand something to be about purpose is what something is meant to do a fork is created with a purpose (to lift stuff up without getting the liquid perhaps? I don't know), but it doesn't have a meaning (unless someone signs it and puts it upside down in a gallery or something).. both require intent. for something to have been intended to do something, someone must've created it. if, as popular science would have it, we aren't created by anything, we wouldn't have neither purpose nor meaning. we could have.. function, but defining the human function would be hard, and particularly quite more extensive than saying "reproduction" like most "clever people" do; the definition of our function would be everything we do and everything we could ever possibly do and it wouldn't be particularly informative either. |
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the words "function" and "purpose" are almost synonymous in the context you just described. i see what you're getting at - but what about having your own personal purpose for life? I think, especially due to Combo's personal first post, this thread (and most idle thought about the meaning of life by laypeople) is directed towards what their purpose on earth is, not what mankind's purpose or reason for existance is. |
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Life is kinda gay/but it doesn't seem that way/through the eyes of a child |
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"meaning is what you may understand something to be about" so you could say "what is life about" even that question feels incomprehensible i think the reason so many people find it a hard question to answer as the question itself is very tricky to get your head around. |
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science makes no attempt to to answer why we were created. only how. purpose and meaning as philosophical constructs are not in the realm of science. my purpose is to care for my daughter, and give her the best life possible. from a scientific perspective, it is because by doing this, i increase the chances of perpetuating my genetic material. from a philosophical perspective, it is because i love my daughter. |
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I'll have to go with breeding as well... |
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aw, thats sweet. and scientifically coherent too. |
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i dunno get your self some real problems |
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far from it. purpose is what something was intended to do, function is what something actually does; one of the functions of a bee is that it carries pollen from one flower to another, but I wouldn't say that is its purpose (nor its full function). |
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no, I'm saying both questions, by your reasoning, make as little sense as each other. |
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you're talking natural sciences there, and then according to natural science you don't have a purpose because a purpose requires that you were created with intent, which only conscious or sentient beings may do and I doubt you believe in neither god nor nature-as-a-god; one of your functions is taking care of your daughter and any natural science explanation of why you do it is highly dubitable (is that a proper word?). the only explanation that's even remotely trustworthy is your own psychological assessment; you love her. |
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Well, I guess it is up to you to give your life meaning. But besides that, if I were god i'd create an universe just because I CAN, AND I WOULD TELL EVERYONE TO STFU and ACCEPT MY SURPRIOR INTELLIGENCE |
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The Material Cause is that from which a thing comes into existence as from its parts, constituents, substratum or materials. This reduces the explanation of causes to the parts (factors, elements, constituents, ingredients) forming the whole (system, structure, compound, complex, composite, or combination) (the part-whole causation). The Formal Cause tells us what a thing is, that any thing is determined by the definition, form, pattern, essence, whole, synthesis, or archetype. It embraces the account of causes in terms of fundamental principles or general laws, as the whole (macrostructure) is the cause of its parts (the whole-part causation). The Efficient Cause is that from which the change or the ending of the change first starts. It identifies 'what makes of what is made and what causes change of what is changed' and so suggests all sorts of agents, nonliving or living, acting as the sources of change or movement or rest. Representing the current understanding of causality as the relation of cause and effect, this covers the modern definitions of "cause" as either the agent or agency or particular events or states of affairs. The Final Cause is that for the sake of which a thing exists or is done, including both purposeful and instrumental actions and activities. The final cause or telos is the purpose or end that something is supposed to serve, or it is that from which and that to which the change is. This also covers modern ideas of mental causation involving such psychological causes as volition, need, motivation, or motives, rational, irrational, ethical, all that gives purpose to behavior. |
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semantics. |
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