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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 07:02 [#01907809]
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AUTOPOIESIS - The process whereby an organization produces itself. An autopoietic organization is an autonomous and self-maintaining unity which contains component-producing processes. The components, through their interaction, generate recursively the same network of processes which produced them. An autopoietic system is operationally closed and structurally state determined with no apparent inputs and outputs. A cell, an organism, and perhaps a corporation are examples of autopoietic systems.
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oyvinto
on 2006-05-27 07:05 [#01907810]
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yes
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staz
on 2006-05-27 07:08 [#01907811]
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nice spelling, jerk!
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xceque
on 2006-05-27 07:10 [#01907813]
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If it was, then what?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 07:12 [#01907818]
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We are not 'persons' or 'personalitys' we are simply systems
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-27 07:13 [#01907819]
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if it was, then it would be nice if we were profitable
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2006-05-27 07:19 [#01907822]
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ths thrd s wnk
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-27 07:23 [#01907824]
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ban
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 07:24 [#01907825]
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How about THIS one
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QRDL
from Poland on 2006-05-27 07:25 [#01907826]
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Why can't a person be a system? Where does the oposition come from?
What is a person? Why can't personalicy be a component of a system?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 07:29 [#01907830]
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Because only the communication communicates not PERSONS
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-27 08:05 [#01907841]
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you as a person are not communicating very well when you say communication communicates not PERSONS
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 08:07 [#01907842]
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Thats a quote by Niklas Luhmann not me.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 08:11 [#01907843]
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It is a mistake in Luhmann's theory to imagine that minds or people communicate. Only communication communicates: “Communication recursively recalls and anticipates further communications, and solely within the network of self-created communications can it produce communications as the operative elements of its own system. In so doing, communication generates a distinct autopoietic system in the strict (not just “metaphorical”) sense of the term” (9). Likewise, communication is unable to produce, reproduce, transmit, or receive perceptions, which are operations of consciousness: “Consciousness cannot communicate, communication cannot perceive” (47).
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-27 09:10 [#01907869]
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so we're an system creating poetry autonomously, and self-maintaining (read: there will always be enough dorks to fill the board with rubbish)
...Luhmann isadick
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2006-05-27 09:38 [#01907874]
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Poetry? Uhuh...we are not talking about poetry here
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-05-27 09:40 [#01907875]
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perhaps we should be
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-27 18:35 [#01908123]
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i think its just the noun / verb confusion again YOU ARE GETTING CONFUSED BY LANGUAGE U SILLY BILLY
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-28 07:06 [#01908328]
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XLT is an authoritarian system
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-05-28 07:53 [#01908348]
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planet earth loves you confusion is sex monoid the bad vibrations will gonna put you down i am Falito
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-28 07:54 [#01908349]
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he is falito
OBEY
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-05-28 08:05 [#01908353]
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Have you ever had your own opinion or theory? Sure, I guess you're a system, with hard drive stocked with books that your personality'less communications software quotes. (Mernans, Gwely) [sic]
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