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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2006-05-25 01:59 [#01906518]
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Can Ableton be used as a production tool beyond sequencing samples? i.e. can you sequence vstis, get a piano roll, sequence beats, etc in it?
I'm thinking of buying it but can't seem to find a straight answer on Google. I'd like to be able to produce tracks in their entirety in Ableton and then take them live. It'd be great to be able to do all this in one piece of software.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2006-05-25 02:23 [#01906532]
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I have used it to sequence, and also make tracks, but it feel more difficult than FL. Think there's som great possibilities in that program though
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-05-25 02:33 [#01906538]
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you can indeed sequence midi data and play it with vsts and such, but as for a good beat sequencer, i havent been able to find a good method, but im still merely toying with it myself.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-05-25 05:10 [#01906629]
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its really intuitive and cus out lots of bullshit most people dont want. but i dont 'feel' it like cubase.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-05-25 05:15 [#01906634]
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I can't stand it as a sequencer its so clumsy and overly "mac-ish" you know the way programmes try to look all sleek and cool. It gets right on my upper decker wobble checkers.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-05-25 05:29 [#01906657]
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it cant be beat for live shit though. i want to try energy xt though. i heard some good things. and that bidule copy from the mdsp guys. and its fre i think?
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-05-25 05:31 [#01906659]
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links?
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-25 05:52 [#01906674]
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Ableton will DEFINITELY do this. You can sequence piano rolls, etc, then paste them on to the arrangement view to make songs, or the other way round.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2006-05-25 05:59 [#01906678]
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if you want to make drums just put in the Impulse Midi plugin and throw in the wav's you want to use for drums. Then you just use the piano roll for the sequence
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2006-05-25 06:21 [#01906697]
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download the demo and play. it has VST support, a piano roll for sequencing (use the Simpler to sample things), a drum machine to drop kicks, snares, hats, etc. shit's got everything you need!
i paid for my copy and i am a very proud owner.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2006-05-25 09:31 [#01906845]
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i'm using it for half year now! it's good.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-05-25 10:17 [#01906868]
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yes.
not really a step sequencer if thats what you are looking for. it can be easily rewired to reason though. it has a piano roll kind of thing in it however. If you have ever used Acid, it is very similar. I sequence beats in it simply by arranging them, like dragging and dropping the wav's. of course it is farrr superior to Acid. you can also use envelopes to re arrange playback of your loops.
you can do pretty much all production in Live. I prefer to do my post production/mastering in a wave editor like soundforge though.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-05-25 10:18 [#01906869]
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oh does live 5 have a drum machine? i'm still using live 4.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-25 10:50 [#01906883]
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It has Impulse, an 8-part sampler.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2006-05-25 16:33 [#01907094]
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i guess you could use a vsti drum machine in ableton then, something like ni battery....
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Aunty
from Llangefni (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-25 17:44 [#01907127]
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i use ableton with fruityloops as well as my hardware. I used to use logic but I much prefer ableton, there is a lot less fannying about
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-05-25 17:51 [#01907130]
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Hey, I can only manage to record midi knob twiddle automation to the arrangement. Is there a way to record it to midi clips in the scene view?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-05-25 17:53 [#01907131]
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ahh yes i use battery with it.
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Aunty
from Llangefni (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-25 17:56 [#01907133]
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you can only record midi 1-127 to clips, not vsti automation
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Aunty
from Llangefni (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-25 17:56 [#01907134]
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you can assign midi 1-127 to the vst parameters though
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-05-25 18:10 [#01907139]
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welcome to xlt by the way!
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Aunty
from Llangefni (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-25 18:12 [#01907143]
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thanks!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-05-25 18:21 [#01907149]
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Best new member award goes to aunty! So I use the VSTi's midi learn instead of Live's parameter mapping panel, then record the midi into the clip, and it seems to work.
Eeeeeehxcellent.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-05-25 19:13 [#01907164]
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well DUH!
:D
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