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           cygnus
             from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-05-04 21:58 [#01892976]
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 so, take the average left->right sequencer. it is 2  Dimensional. its linear, right? time goes from left to  right
 
  now imagine one that's 3D, and you kinda have this bigass  box thats 20x20 'boxes' deep. your measures are 3  dimensionally 400 'boxes'. you can make time go in any  direction in the 3D "measure", 
 
  now, when compared to the linear sequencer, imagine time  going AWAY from you. like, you're looking at the flat side  of the 'big box' (all of the boxes), and time is going the  opposite direction of you and getting the midi data, like,  standing still but still moving. do you understand what im  saying? midi events are already playing at one poitn but  they are also moving in time. stuffs changing when its not.  do you feel me? 
 
  
         
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           recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-05-04 22:01 [#01892978]
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way to much fucking stuff to read, sorry
  id prol not be any help anyways
 
  
         
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           cygnus
             from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-05-04 22:02 [#01892979]
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its cool
 
  
         
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           dog_belch
             from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-04 22:04 [#01892980]
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..... Autechre?
 
  
         
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           recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-05-04 22:07 [#01892982]
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quite fucking Mr. cygnus's thread Mate.
  its hot where hes at, he able to blow  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 
 
  
         
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           cygnus
             from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-05-04 22:10 [#01892983]
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yeah im pretty fucking liable to jump up and karate kick  some ass at random. better watch the fuck out unless you  want to get fucked up motherfucker 
 
  
         
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           pigster
             from melbs on 2006-05-04 23:47 [#01892992]
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itd be like 3d tetris... dont really see a point. unless you really are onto something quite awesome and  revolutionary and im not catching on. 
 
  
         
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           Taxidermist
             from Black Grass on 2006-05-05 00:04 [#01892994]
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5.1 mastering? Couldn't you just do this in cubase???
 
  
         
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           fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2006-05-05 00:11 [#01892996]
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Fucking amazing idea, cygnus. So good I'm apt to tuck it  under my arm and run like a mother fucker. Stop trying to  explain it to these numptys. Go find a programmer or become  one and make it happen. 
 
  
         
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           pigster
             from melbs on 2006-05-05 00:15 [#01892997]
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if you're gonna actually try and make it, go right ahead! but again, 3d tetris?...
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-05 01:06 [#01893016]
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I take it that it'd be mainly used for "interactive"  applications? IE you walk/fly around the various boxes, each  of which plays a different bit of sound/triggers an effect.  A bit like the Boards of Canada website circa Geogaddi?
 
  An insanely intelligent kid in my school who was into  electronic music and produced a bit himself was talking to  me about an idea he had for a track that followed a "tunnel"  whereby you go down it and different elements faded/panned  in as you went down the tunnel, but the fact that the  tunnel's longest dimension (ie the direction of the tunnel)  was in line with the normal left to right timeline would  help retain some sense of start, middle, and end.  
 
  
         
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           Falito
             from Balenciaga  on 2006-05-05 02:02 [#01893036]
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i li ke it
 
  
         
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           cygnus
             from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-05-05 02:02 [#01893037]
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5.1 mastering? Couldn't you just do this in cubase???  
 
  its sequencing, you have the 3D "measure" and midi data is  set up to happen, but the time-line can go anywhere in  3dimensional space, you feel me? so then what does a sound  sound like when it is happening but also not happening
 
  Fucking amazing idea, cygnus. So good I'm apt to tuck it under my arm and run like a mother fucker. Stop trying to explain it to these numptys. Go find a programmer or become one and make it happen. 
  what programming language do you think i could learn in  probably under a year and do it in? 
 
  if you're gonna actually try and make it, go right  ahead!
  but again, 3d tetris?...
  it probably looks like 3 dimensional tetris but theres no  spaces or anything
 
  I take it that it'd be mainly used for "interactive" applications? IE you walk/fly around the various boxes,  each
  of which plays a different bit of sound/triggers an effect.  
 
  no the main thing really is the timeline. midi events are  happening and they are not happening at the same time  because the timeline is going back and forth, to and away  from you, you feel me?   
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-05-05 02:06 [#01893042]
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Ah right, that makes sense. How do you determine where it  starts/how or where it ends? Or is this some sort of  "neverending techno" track that goes on for infinity? ;) 
 
  
         
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           Drunken Mastah
             from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-05 03:20 [#01893081]
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what does a sound sound like when it is happening but  also not happening 
 
  ..silence?
  anyway... your idea is.. the sequencer is represented as a  three-dimensional box and then you plot different sounds  around in this box and when you play it back, it sweeps  through the box.. sounds like any other sequencer, but it'd  look like 3d-tetris as someone said... if you're trying to  create three-dimensional time (instead of one-dimensional),  you're out of your league and quite possibly high on acid. 
 
  
         
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           Taxidermist
             from Black Grass on 2006-05-05 12:23 [#01893439]
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I like hearing when people come up with new interfaces, but  I think just learning your tools well enough to percieve  things in manners like this is just as good.
 
  An example would be with fruityloops.Using the three xy  controllers, I would set them up with lfo's so that they  represented the orbitation of a moon to its planet. the  algorythms I would use would be 'x', 'y' and 'z'. xy  controller one would be linked to algorythm x and y, xy  controller two would be linked to algorythm x and z, and xy  controller three would be linked to algorythm y and z.  Eventually you don't need the xy controllers, you can just  use the lfo automations on things like filter, pitch and  panning to get the "3d" effect you were looking for in the  first place. 
 
  
         
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