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offline big from lsg on 2006-04-21 05:28 [#01883893]
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this was only yesterday broadcasted on dutch
public television

it's a documentary about the the gay community in san
francisco, or i'd imagine the promiscues part of it, that
you could say has given up on battling aids up to the point
where people want to get infected to be part of a community.
some reasons for this are: fatalism, you're gonna get it
anyway; not wanting to be left out: homosexuality is
generally not so accepted in the u.s. so gay men flock to
san franciso, there you want to belong to some group; social
presure: it's not cool to want to use condoms at a
'bareback' party; wanting to go to through the same thing as
your infected partner; political correctness towards
infected (positive) people, saying something negative about
aids is stigmatizing the ones that have it (really insane
imo, just like the social pressure)
the documentary gave the impression there's 10's of
thousands of men seeking out bareback parties and
'bugchasing' and 'giftgiving' isn't a rare exception

it was really horrible to watch but i guess also
fascinating
anybody else saw this? anybody know wether things have
changed in the attitude towards aids here


 

offline zero-cool on 2006-04-21 05:39 [#01883906]
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any boc documentaries?


 

offline big from lsg on 2006-04-21 05:43 [#01883911]
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i think discovery is too slow even, so: no


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-04-21 08:31 [#01884024]
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i didn't see the documentary, but i read an article about
this a few years ago. the article said specifically that it
was not at all common - that it was a very tiny group of
people in the gay community doing this stuff, and that it
was being blown out of proportion by the media. i dunno...
but the idea of deliberately getting AIDS is completely
insane and scary to me.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-04-21 08:57 [#01884058]
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i'm not sure how common willfull infection with hiv is
either, but i have read about it. media do tend to amplify
and exaggerate issues like this.

it seems strange on the surface, but then it occurs to me
that many many people engage in willfully self-destructive
behavior, or if you prefer "high risk" behavior.

there is a perception, i think, that the "aids death
sentence" no longer exists, if you have the resources you
can afford the drugs that will maintain your health.



 

offline big from lsg on 2006-04-21 08:59 [#01884059]
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i forgot that last one. it's certainly not true, you'll die
of heart failure or something


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-04-21 09:19 [#01884068]
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that's what they said - the side effects of all the drugs
make your heart weaker and weaker, so the chance they'll die
of heart failure is immense.


 


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