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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-04-03 10:22 [#01871608]
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I know you can get more expensive software than this, but for what it does, this has got to be the most overpriced ($799) I've seen.
Post your anti-bargains here...
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-04-03 10:25 [#01871611]
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FL Studio $99
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2006-04-03 10:28 [#01871613]
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That's not a plug-in, faggot!
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-04-03 10:38 [#01871619]
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Rolling in the BENZ via synthedit ...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-04-03 11:30 [#01871658]
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You're forgetting that This is a highly specialized audio device for brainwave entrainment audio applications.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-04-03 18:53 [#01871853]
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so its an effect that makes stuff entertaining and/or gives people seizures? AWESOME!!
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-04-03 19:55 [#01871870]
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"Get your own fuckin brainwaves"
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2006-04-03 20:00 [#01871871]
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ah, i love the internet.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-04-03 20:03 [#01871873]
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i am saying anything made by god damn "WAVES"... that shit is CRAP. and it's overpriced. fucking nazi bitches. hardware kiosks? wtf, matey!!!!
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-04-03 23:52 [#01871928]
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"The next level of brainwave entrainment technology."
books ?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-04-04 00:11 [#01871932]
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Naw, waves is all good. Its just usefull more for film than music, and the effects are extremely subtle.
How about this?
I know it may sound great and all that, but $3000 for an orchestra sample library?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-04-04 02:26 [#01871972]
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Remember, you should do your mastering on the device it is intended to be played back on, be it hardware kiosks, laptop speakers or mid-range audio applications such as home hi-fis. :D
Quite how you're meant to use Maxbass on a drum and bass soundsystem when you're mastering tracks in your bedroom, I don't know...
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-04-04 05:03 [#01872017]
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oh wait i found an even more over priced bundle of softwarez...
VIENNA SYMPHONIC LIBRARY aka VSL COMPLETE PRO EDITIION. est usd = $4,407.97
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2006-04-04 13:15 [#01872253]
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yeah, and they claim it to be "royalty-free" don't they?
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2006-04-04 18:56 [#01872513]
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no high priced symphonic libraries are pretty much the norm for people that are seriously into it.
like a lot of film scores are composed using full orchestra sample libraries. no synthesis. and if you consider the options- say for something for a big hollywood film
-hire a real orchestra for the duration of the recording process
-spend big bucks on a sample library and do it yourself.... i mean youve already scored it.
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2006-04-04 19:02 [#01872514]
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also you realize with the full sets of orchestral stuff... each note for each instrument is individually sampled. its not like they are just recording a few and pitching them up or down. so i mean you have like x number of instruments, each recorded at y number of notes, and beyond that, possibly also different other parameters in terms of duration or other expression stuff.... i dont think it is that wierd that they are expensive to buy..... honestly i am pretty sure that for 3000 you get a pretty low-end set... in the entire scheme of things.
i can't think of where i was reading about it, but some guy was talking about all this shit on a website... and talking about some recent films that were all scored without a live-orchestra.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-04-04 19:51 [#01872525]
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so... you do or you don't see a problem with sampled ochrestra bull shit softwarez?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-04-04 21:18 [#01872536]
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I plan on buying an orchestral sample library when I get enough spare cash. Probably the VSL opus bundle... $1000
and yeah, think of all the time it took to multisample all the instruments, and sections.
Then think of all the time it took to edit all of those recordings and put them together in a way that you can sit at a keyboard, and have it sound realistic (as realistic as possible)
I'm taking a class on orchestral mock-ups, and its a lot of fun using the VSL. It sounds so lush.
And yeah, considering most sample libraries are used for film and tv etc... I say its a fair deal... a few thousand bucks for something you'll use on almost every gig... verus tens of thousands of dollars for ONE gig.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-04-04 21:32 [#01872537]
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The musicians who were hired to play the instruments they sampled must have felt like American programmers training their Indian replacements during their final weeks of employment.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-04-04 21:40 [#01872538]
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that's got to be a joke... it even looks like something you'd download for free off AOL 2.0... christ... i feel bad for anyone who pays 800 bucks for something like that.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-04-04 21:57 [#01872539]
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nah, I really doubt it. They know that these libraries are going to be used by people who would never have had access to a real orchestra.
most hollywood stuff is still live orchestras, and I dont see it changing really... people still like the comfort of having real people play... and when you're in the movie business, you have the kind of money to go for it. I really don't think the London Symphony Orchestra, is feeling a hit in their gigs/pay for doing this.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-04-04 22:03 [#01872540]
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yeah but he was making a funny and you ruined it.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-04-04 22:08 [#01872544]
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Waves sucks. I really don`t like, the multiband comp seems to be the only worth wild thing but I`m using an older version so ...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-04-04 22:09 [#01872545]
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thats what I do
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lucifer
on 2006-04-04 22:21 [#01872549]
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haven't you guys heard of .torrent's?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-04-04 22:29 [#01872552]
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thanks for the moral advice, satan
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-04-04 23:08 [#01872557]
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who?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-04-04 23:16 [#01872558]
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Torrance, ya dummy!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-04-05 03:40 [#01872621]
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Yes, all good points, BUT:
Do you think Hypnos Vocoder: Brainwave Entrainment Device is worth $800?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2006-04-05 09:08 [#01872736]
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I couldn't say, as I haven't used it, and there are no audio demos.
The interface isn't very pretty, but who knows, maybe its because all of the funding went into the plugin itself.
It could be amazing, or it could be crap... don't know.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-04-05 10:45 [#01872769]
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why is that in reference to the shining?
hahaha
all work and no play make jack a dull boy
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-04-05 11:10 [#01872779]
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No because i have used free low frequency generators and various brainwave devices years ago that were free.
This is a joke.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2006-04-05 11:43 [#01872795]
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CAT FIGHTTT!!! ECW!
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