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My friends got a hold of some hawaiian morning glory lsa seeds and dream herb last week. He wants us both to try some. Has anyone here tried lsa? I've already done the whole erowid search but I'd like to know the opinions of anyone here. |
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i havent done lsa, but it seems pretty stupid. the drugs that are legal tend to be so for a reason. just get yourself some real acid instead. |
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haha, I knew it would be you who replied. Well, acid doesn't mix well with me. I've had some bad experiences with it. I've also decided to still to the natural drugs from mother earth. I'm into gaia and all that jazz. |
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still - stick* |
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haha, i guess i got a reputation to uphold now :P if you dont do well on acid i cant imagine you doing much better on lsa, if only for their similarities. also, keep in mind the poppy seed, the coca plant and the plants which produce lsd all come from mother earth too :P |
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dont you need to ingest like 250 of them just to feel anything |
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thats mostly because youll end up pucking your ass off for the first hour and you gotta make sure some of it stays in your system. yeah, like i say, drugs as supposed to be fun. |
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well i only plan to take 5-8 seeds, and this isnt like the weak morning glory, its called Hawaiian Baby Woodrose. |
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Yeah Hawaiian Baby Woodrose. Had some for about a month, but haven't had a chance to try them. From what I've read you should crush 5-10, add the powder to lemon juice and hold in your mouth for about 15 mins and spit it out. The seeds (like apple seeds, cherry pits, etc) have a compound that breaks down into cyanide upon digestion, it's probably a defense mechanism so animals don't eat the seeds. So if you swallow them you will get nauseous and probably throw up from a moderate dose. |
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thanks for the info. |
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yeah well you should say that, you definately said morning glory seeds does which does not mean baby woodrose seeds. also "thats mostly because youll end up pucking your ass off for the first hour and you gotta make sure some of it stays in your system. " you puke because most commercial morning glory seeds are treated with chemicals to do so to prevent kids from eating them to get fucked up. they have something like .008 LSA where baby woodrose seeds are .4 or something, i read it a long time ago. but yeah the reason you have to eat so many is cause theyre incredibly weak |
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I've tried them. Heartily recommended. It's true, the nausea. You have got to be prepared to experience mild-to-moderate stomach discomfort for a period of 60-90 minutes. I never puked, though. Also beware of coating... Some brands have some human-made nasty chemicals on them - do your homework. Depending on the seeds and the dosage, try something like 100-200 seeds. Once you get past the initial discomfort, the experience will be quite exciting. I never had any visuals, nor any hallucinations, but I did have an acute perception of my surroundings, and music never sounded quite so good. But take my word for it, don't eat any fast food, it's really total shit and you'll know it. Again, know what you're doing. It worked for me. |
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jesus christ. please dont listen to these fucking idiots. people are confusing HBWR with morning glory seeds, of which you have to eat a ton. for HBWR less than 10 should suffice. If you've been to erowid, you really don't need to come here afterwards. Have you checked the experience vault? I ate them once and didn't feel any effects. The potency can vary greatly per batch of seeds, so keep this in mind. If you can spare one seed, try to germinate it so you'll have a beautiful plant, and possibly your own lsa source. have fun! |
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oh this one is good: "I threw over the covers and jumped onto my computer to try to document what I was feeling on an aphex twin messageboard." http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=19644 |
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I did the whole erowid experience reading, but I just wanted to hear any info from you guys :) And sorry for calling them morning glory, my friend wasnt clear with me till I asked him what the package read. |
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haha!! I wonder what xlt member this is? |
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That's where I got the info on the nausea and the method of holding it in your mouth. On erowid there are only two reports; one is using 5 seeds, held for 15 minutes, reported nonausea and a trip. The other was 9 seeds, held for 30 minutes, and they said they accidentally swallowed about 5% of the mixture. They threw up and had an intense trip. I'm probably going to try 3-4 for 15 minutes; I'm a lightweight and don't like to 'fry', I haven't done any psychadelics for over 3 years now anyway. |
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I'll be doing 5-6 and hold for 15 minutes. I'm not sure if I should have any weed with it though. |
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LSA = Link State Advertisement are we talking autechre or are we talking OSPF routing protocol? |
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take an acid reducer....then hold mixture for 15 minutes and then swallow it. report results |
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what's an acid reducer? something like pepto? |
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i take something that stops the stomach from producing acid or something rediculous like that. Its great for after a long night of drinking because it makes feeling sick impossible. Therefore he could swallow it and not be affected by feeling yucky. Try Ranitidine |
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I don't think I'll be downing this. I'm pretty sure that having it orally for an extended peroid of time would suffice. One time I was chewing shrooms for so long that eventually I started to peak and just spat them out and enjoyed a long trip. |
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Or maybe you should be sensible and abstain given your previous mental problems. |
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wow, what an experience. couldnt possibly describe it all. it was everything. amazing trip. took 3 hours to kick in though. i thought that was a little strange. |
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"I'll be doing 5-6 and hold for 15 minutes. I'm not sure if I should have any weed with it though." yeah that might fuck you up Lol. |
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I read that the peak is about halfway through, gradual rise, gradual down. Was it like that? |
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well, i wasn't feeling anything for over two hours, and me and my friends were getting ready to listen to our new albums and we wanted to get some sort of high, so we went out and shared a joint. it was the weed that threw the lsa into effect. I knew that it wasn't a weed high I was experiencing. When I was coming up, it was very scary, you get that feeling like shit if this persists ill go nuts, but i calmed myself down and had a great 4-6 hours of amazing experiences. I guess the best way to describe lsa aside from the already known effects is that you get a strange sense that you dont exist anymore, and some alien or being is borrowing your sight and looking at the world around you with curiosity. its amazing but very dissasociating. |
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coming down was a terrible feeling, its like this.. lets say that your in some sort of heaven where everything is perfect and amazing, every tactile, audible, and sensation is as your fingertips to enjoy, but in this state of bliss, you actually start to get bored with what your given. "ok, that was cool, next.. next.. next.. oh thats nice, next... this is boring.." and its horrifying to have that attitude in such a plateau. |
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Any nausea? |
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nope. i felt great, but about 6 hours in i felt a strange pain in my intestines, guess that was a bit of the seed i swallowed by accident. wasnt harsh though. |
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so you needed weed to trigger it ? i wonder... |
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I usually hear that people smoke bowls before/during tripping, but nnot with alcohol. Is that a bad idea? I would think there's a chance you could get sick, but it also seems like it would put you in a good mood. |
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whenever im drinking and smoking weed (which I dont prefer anymore) nothing really happens. I feel like the effects of the alcohol and weed are destroyed by eachother. its like a limbo where i wonder if im really drunk or really high. i wouldnt recommend drinking with anything psychoactice. |
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dont do drugs : ) its bad for your health |
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big deal, i feel like that most of the time... |
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yeah shut up |
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I usually smoke a bowl about 15 minutes after eating shrooms because I find that it usually quells any upset stomach from the shrooms (which usually happens if I don't smoke). However, last time I did shrooms, smoking didn't take care of the pain, and I had a bad trip influenced by it. I decided then that theres no reason to continue doing shrooms, since I don't enjoy the sensation anymore. |
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Yes, alcohol+weed is a total waste of [time/brain cells]. As for your weed onset of lsa plateau-tude, nothing truly surprising, although I can't speak from experience here. Psychoactive compounds, on the whole, tend to mutually reinforce. Alcohol, being basically a downer, would be only a hindrance. In my case LSA took about 2 hours to make itself known. But then it did so with passion. I didn't use anything to trigger it, but I'm sure something could've facilitated it. This, you'll notice, is not too strange. 2-3 hours is perfectly normal, and just enough to make people think "nothing is happening..." It has to do, I'm sure, with the enzyme processes required to break down, convert and metabolise the chemical constituents of the seed. Your body takes its time. |
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I only thing that you Krelian will stay even worse using that crap and similars. Ha, bye. |
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Bit of a coincidence, I was planning on buying some HBWR this weekend, how wierd? Also looking into a thing called Kratom which looks like a hoot. |
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*think I can't think a lot in english... PENSAR PENSAR PENSAR |
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ive had several trips with hawaiian baby woodrose seeds and a madagascar version of LSA seeds and they work fine for me yeah sure lsd would be the prefered but this stuff does provide fun and insights |
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Did you scrape off the outer coating of the seeds at all or do any 'lsa extraction' with zippo lighter fluid and yada yada on erowid? Or you just smashed them completely as is with outer brown covering and everything? |
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last time i ate 8 of these seeds (and yes i scraped them clean meticulously) i was puking for a good 3 hours. I had my head in the toiletbowl, fumbling for my cellphone to call ER if the puking wouldn't stop. That said, i did have some interesting face-morph effects when looking in the mirror afterwards. yay.. I dont know if i have had bad batches of seeds these 3 or 4 times now, or if lsa just isn't compatible with my digestive system, but i have given up on it. I'd only do a clean lsa extract if i could be bothered to make one. |
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That sound terrible... Hypothetically, if I were to use these, I might do it the safest way possible, since I'm a sissy, by starting with only 1 completely peeled with remaining coating burned off, then extracted ala: and then don't actually swallow any ala: Then up the does to 2,3,4,5,6 each time... hypothetically that is. |
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I practically expect the government to track my purchasing history of zippo lighter fluid now. |
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there is no point in achieving threshold effects so i would start with no less than 4. You'll be fine. http://www.erowid.org/plants/hbw/hbw_dose.shtml you see how the doses overlap? thats because the potency per seed can vary a lot. Eating one seed isn't likely to do anything. |
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