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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 19:49 [#01848467]
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its 02:45 in the morning, and im blasting "Nobody Get's out Alive" - Alec Empire
just thought i would share that...
who else loves Alec empire??
have you been to any of hes sets?
is anyone here lucky enough to have seen him when he was with atari teenage riot??!!
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staz
on 2006-02-24 19:56 [#01848474]
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i've been meaning to at least give it a chance... i didn't really like ATR at all...
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 20:18 [#01848488]
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No? hmmm yeah not everyone can take on to them, there are a few tracks that anyone can not dislike, but there Noise/Digital hardcore does not grab everyone.
have you listend to Alec empire solo stuff??, your most probley like that.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-24 20:19 [#01848490]
Points: 10965 Status: Regular | Followup to staz: #01848474
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I saw ATR live once. it was really fucking loud. like really loud. it was a good show as i remember it. the opener was EQ8R which is a similar digital hardcore band but not as good.
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 20:25 [#01848495]
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ahhh man thats quality, i have both there live albums at brixton and in philidelphia, i would have loved to see them, shame there now non-existent...
but since they split up Alec's been wikid.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-24 20:28 [#01848496]
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To be honest I find it faux hardcore. He's knocking 40 and shouting teenage angst crap like Trent.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-02-24 20:33 [#01848500]
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hahaha. even old guys can have angst. but i agree it should be about old guy stuff like hair fallin out and corvette got a scratch.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-24 20:37 [#01848502]
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totally. If there was a middle aged grey haired/comb over track I'd be on it.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-02-24 20:46 [#01848503]
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half the songs on the last nine inch nails album are about prostate exams. that's legit.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-24 20:50 [#01848504]
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I only gave it one listen. Was I wrong? I worry about my prostrate, don't mention it!
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 20:52 [#01848505]
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he does not know what hes talking about anyway its hardly "teenage angst" i think your referring to ATR when they were all around that age anyway and stood up against neo-nazis and a whole lot of things that were happening in berlin at the time, it was also when that shitty hard house bollocks came about in germany, and they sure told those lot to fuck off, they created somthing new and origional, obviously dated now but there still legends. Present Alec empire, hes music is still rebelious and political, but it is hardly "teenage angst" as you put it, but then again you would think that with "JivverDicker" as your display name.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-24 20:56 [#01848507]
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Alec Empire was in his thirties when he did ATR for the first time. Do you know his album 3 months previous to ATR? It was a daft hip hop jazz thing that he'd love to imagine never happend.
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 21:11 [#01848509]
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he was born in 72 ATR formed in 92, so he was 20. 30's when they came to an end when there music had developed anyway, away from punky teenage angst shouting, and he sampled alot of 60's and 70's funk while early dj'ing which was acctuly very good, SAMPLED, you made that up about a hip hop album release, there were no releases before ATR, there was a solo release in early ATR years "Generation Star Wars", and obviously ATR releases.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-24 21:16 [#01848511]
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Don't be a daft consumer. The boat has left.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-02-24 21:17 [#01848512]
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in all seriousness, no, that album is horrible.
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 21:21 [#01848513]
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhh yes, hyper modern jazz, hardly hip hop.
and thats not prior to ATR
thankyou.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-24 21:23 [#01848514]
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Phew and phew! All I can think about at the moment is my girlfriend and the new little people that are going to be here in a few months. Two un identical little people are here soon! It's exciting + I'm shitting it!
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-24 21:26 [#01848515]
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I agree, hardly hip hop, a pretty lame effort. I wonder why he felt he needed to do that as ATR was SOO real.
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 21:27 [#01848516]
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well i'm glad i have forced you to talk shit as you can not reply with a right/correct argument.
thanks man.
bye bye and sleep well.
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 21:29 [#01848517]
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just experimental i guess, hes a recording artist, what are you.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-24 21:30 [#01848519]
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You are glad you've forced me to talk shit?
why?
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 21:33 [#01848520]
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well obviously because i despise bernard manning but loove Tadanobu Asano.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-24 21:36 [#01848521]
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You like japanese films so you are glad you have made me talk shit? Answer the question.
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 21:41 [#01848523]
Points: 65 Status: Lurker | Followup to JivverDicker: #01848521
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Remain calm lad, well basically after i had replied with this:
"ohhhhhhhhhhhhh yes, hyper modern jazz, hardly hip hop.
and thats not prior to ATR
thankyou."
you then replied with this:
"Phew and phew! All I can think about at the moment is my girlfriend and the new little people that are going to be here in a few months. Two un identical little people are here soon! It's exciting + I'm shitting it!"
as you could not answer me
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 21:41 [#01848525]
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ok i now see that you were following up to r40f, i do apologise
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-02-24 21:48 [#01848528]
Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to KSC2-303: #01848525
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I'm all over the place at the moment properly!
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-24 21:51 [#01848529]
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lol, yes well dont do your self an eye injury, it was a fun debate cuz i was board shitless, good night man i am tierd, haha good morning more like!
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neuronaameboide
from palma de mallorca (Spain) on 2006-02-25 05:48 [#01848596]
Points: 183 Status: Regular | Followup to KSC2-303: #01848467
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alec empire is like the jello biafra of our days. ans he is also amazing doing ambient music(the iceland sessions)
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-25 11:06 [#01848683]
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i have a few of his tracks - no albums though. Is most of his stuff similar to ATR ?
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KSC2-303
from CHELMSFORD, ESSEX (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-26 05:44 [#01849116]
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some elements of ATR, mostley no though, hardly noise, more in rythum Drum N' Bass/electro. some of hes tracks are very thrashy and metal sounding.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-02-27 15:32 [#01849929]
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Seeing as I don't like 90%+ of his output, 2 of his tracks are awesome; Addicted to You and The Ride. The Ride is fucking brilliant and one of the few tracks where he really belts out his rage without it sounding contrived.
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