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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-02-18 07:07 [#01843827]
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I think its time I went.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-02-18 07:10 [#01843831]
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enjoy your visit
tell us if they've changed at all
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-18 10:44 [#01843969]
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nah, church is boring. they sit around all day reading some boring old book and singing boring songs.
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uzim
on 2006-02-18 11:50 [#01843995]
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why do you want to go there?
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Q4Z2X
on 2006-02-18 12:04 [#01844000]
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once I went to church and they sang a hymn that sounded just like the underwater level music on the original super mario bros.
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John IX
from Near Dublin (Ireland) on 2006-02-18 12:06 [#01844001]
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I never go. I've only been like, less than ten times in my life.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-02-18 12:07 [#01844002]
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i heard the priests don't touch your inner thigh and slowly move their hand up to your glans in a clandestine attempt at enlightenment via the holy route of molestation anymore, please find out if this is true
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uzim
on 2006-02-18 12:09 [#01844004]
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haha ^^
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-18 12:10 [#01844005]
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Churches are the abode of the weak - people who cant make their own decisions and so look to some lame old book and a bunch of guys in funny clothes to make decisions for them.
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-02-18 12:11 [#01844006]
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i was raised Catholic i hear there are churches somewhere that aren't baptist and fun
must be the mormons because Orgazmo was a good movie
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-02-18 15:46 [#01844183]
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right now i feel like the luckiest guy around. ive had about 18 months of worry lifted from my mind.
ive studied all kinds of faiths and ive always believed there is something holding us all together. however i have for a long time struggled with the identity of god, and have made it a very intellectual issue.
it has suddenly occured to me that identity is unimportant. i dont need to argue with the characteristics of a religion. so i must give thanks for my incredible good fortune and ask for inspiration as to where i should go next.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-02-18 15:55 [#01844196]
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go hug a rainbow.
a big fat catholic ranbow.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-02-18 17:47 [#01844265]
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I cannot identify with that feeling at all, sounds nice though
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Ganymede
from Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on 2006-02-18 18:05 [#01844279]
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Much love to you, Johnny! What's your good fortune?
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-18 18:07 [#01844281]
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there is no god-only fine electronic music.deal with it.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-18 18:08 [#01844282]
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and masuimi
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big
from lsg on 2006-02-18 18:44 [#01844314]
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church kills people in africa imo
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big
from lsg on 2006-02-18 18:55 [#01844321]
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catholicism i mean
church is very very nice, partly a nostalgia thing i guess i wish i could go to church and turn the sound of the priest off
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-02-18 19:09 [#01844324]
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good health, a good job, and a wonderful girlfriend, despite all of the mistakes ive made. but ive still got a long way to go in being my best.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-02-18 19:10 [#01844327]
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i dont know what god is, but ive never felt myself to be in a position to say it doesnt exist. ive been agnostic for many years ..
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Ganymede
from Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on 2006-02-18 19:26 [#01844334]
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You sound truly blessed -- and even more than that, you realize it, which is a good thing.
As for God, you don't need to have an intellectual realization about God. Talking about it can just be a distraction/lead to confusion sometimes.
All you really need is to believe that everything has one underlying source (call it ultimate reality if you like) and that, on balance, things are more positive than negative. That's it! That and love and forgiveness will take you all the way.
Kisses!
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thatne
from United States on 2006-02-18 19:31 [#01844337]
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church sucks.
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uviol
from United States on 2006-02-18 19:42 [#01844343]
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ive never felt myself to be in a position to say it doesnt exist. ive been agnostic for many years ..
That's a good position to be in; open-minded and non-judgemental. There's nothing wrong with church, it's not necessarily the 'abode of the weak.' Agreed, many people go out of either guilt, upbringing, desperation, etc. but just going to church does not mean you're automatically taking part in the so-called 'opiate of the masses.' I mean, when you think about it nearly everything we do, on some level, is an opiate, a way to distract from the otherwise intolerable tedium of life. We all die anyway, some people happen to think there's an afterlife. Maybe there is, maybe there's not. The ever-popular claim that people go to church to be saved because they need the idea of life after death to carry on is complete bullshit. I was raised Christian and went to church every week as a kid. I still go back and forth about what I actually believe. Frankly, I'd be relieved if there wasn't an afterlife. But just because I don't like the idea of one doesn't mean that there isn't one, and vice versa. Everyone seems to think that they can tailor-make their own religion and/or philosophy. Somebody out there is correct. A shitload of other people are not. Who's to say who's right? How will we ever know? I'm not even sure if it's possible. In the meantime, there's nothing wrong with exploring options. If you want to go to church, I say more power to you (although some denominations are more tolerable than others..).
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-02-18 20:04 [#01844358]
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thanks for your kind ear, ganymede and uviol.
i think my next hurdle in life is to become a more compassionate person. ive grown fairly cold over my adolescent years, and i really need to learn to care more about family, and about other people in general.
i guess thats the sort of spiritual guidance im seeking. my girlfirend has really woken me up a great deal (she isnt religious) in terms of being a more caring person.
my world is quite small. i did a terrible thing and ditched all of my friends over the past year or two. i think that marked a turning point in my life. it was when i really recognized that i needed to change, because my life at that time stood for nothing. i guess i feel lonely a lot of the time, but its not an unbearable feeling. i cant go back to the old places.
its strange how hard it is to make friends now, i feel its because im always in a working environment, and i dont go out anymore. but i think more importantly it has to do with learning compassion.
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-02-19 12:22 [#01844638]
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ami tabha doth found a path teh Dao compassion is good you should go to a church when no service is in session then you will have no distraction inner compassion must be strong before you can truly help others
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-02-19 13:48 [#01844711]
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hey, atleast u have a girl. I've don the same things as you. I left a life. Everyone I knew was gone from my life. Cut off. I did something bad too. Don't let this feeling last too long it can turn into years. What
places' can't you return too? What happened if you don't mind me asking
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-02-20 11:21 [#01845421]
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apparently they mind...
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-02-20 11:31 [#01845434]
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