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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-01-31 14:46 [#01831365]
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well, first rally is over with. was 100x crazier and fun than i had ever expected ... not to mention much harder/dangerous than i thought.
conditions were shear/pure ice. i was in the car for the first time and had litle shakedown time due to the complete lack of snow/ice in detroit.
rally was over 2 days, friday and saturday (mixed day/night stages)
the goal for the weekend was just to finish (so i could get my coefficient points) ... and face it, not many people finish their first event because it's easy to start pushing really hard then get caught out.
so friday went pretty slow to get a feel for the car and how much i could trust the tires and how crazy the ice got (nokian/hakka rsi's are fukin amazing tires, wow).
everybody had plenty of off's, but the nice thing about this event (especially for being a first/learning event) was that speeds are slower and the snow banks generally stop you before you get to the trees,
plenty of drama, on the first stage, first turn the guys from italy in their mitz evo launched the snow bank and put it into the trees.
all 4 tires off the ground, was quite a site to see.
everybody had some good offs and generally once you slide into a snowbank and stick it, codriver hops out as quick as possible and gets the tow rope ready for the next car to come by and yank you out.
we had a couple good offs on friday, but it wasnt untli friday night when things got real bad.
at service, i had my "noob to rally" buddy who was working service for me, take the tires off and check for damange and clear any ice/snow outa there.
well, we had some gravel tires holding down the tarp, and he accidently put a gravel tire on the front driver side
keep in mind at this point i have an open/stock differential (i.e. tire with least resistance/traction gets the torque).
so we get the lightpod on and head out for the nightstages.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-01-31 14:47 [#01831366]
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first night stage went good, except for a subie had rolled less than 1/2 mile into the stage, eek ,
2nd night stage got crazy. very very hilly stage and every turn was practically off camber and blind
needless to say we had about 4 big offs then, and i lost all confidence, couldnt figure out why we had no grip/traction at all.
finished the rally (the goal) and got it back to service.
it wasnt until the next morning at parc expose' that i realized there was a gravel tire on there (completely worthless on ice) ... i was pretty excited and not really pissed just because i finally understood why the night before wwas fuking GARBAGE for grip.
got it swapped out and the rest of the day sat went good. lots of varying conditions, all ice in the morning (cold,) the n the sun came out and melted the top layer making thinsg CRAZY slick
then everyone was tearing it up so we got a lot of mud and LWB/puddles to hydro over.
then at night came rain rain rain rain and the lastn ight stages were glare ice
whew, got full confidence with the car about noon on sat and frmo there pushed pretty good and had 0 mistakes on the last 8 stages or so.
my bro was there and took some footage
some video footage my bro took
crazy stuff on ice like that, but i cant believe how much fun it was. the roads were ok for the spectator shots, but everywhere else things were VERY narrow with little room for error.
good times good times. car came home with basically 0 damage
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-01-31 14:49 [#01831370]
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href="http://www.xcrusive.ismightier.com/Sno_Ralley_06_Plac video
was crazy driving on shear ice with no studs, had to be very careful at times lol, many people were caught out but it was a blast once i got the hang of the car
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-01-31 14:54 [#01831381]
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OK O OK OK
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-01-31 15:43 [#01831444]
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needs more autechre/crashes
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-01-31 16:04 [#01831455]
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yeah i didnt make the vid :(
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QRDL
from Poland on 2006-01-31 16:08 [#01831460]
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maaan, I could race you in my panda.
But to be serious, I envy you that you can afford such a hobby. Must be exremely exciting.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-01-31 16:09 [#01831461]
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sounds fucking cool mega fun time. what car do you have?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-01-31 16:10 [#01831464]
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ford focus
2wd/FWD tho, open diff.
diff/gearing comes next, just needed toget out there for this event for experience
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-01-31 20:00 [#01831579]
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Sounds awesome, adventure ahoy. I don't know shit about cars or racing, but the rally thing always appealed to me more than the traditional racing. Rallisport Challenge 2 for Xbox is the extent of my rally experience, insanely fun in those environments. Real life is probably funner, even without the ''reset position'' button for when you drive off cliffs or into rivers.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2006-02-01 01:55 [#01831683]
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Congs!
Looked like you were enjoying yourself.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-02-01 02:26 [#01831697]
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Glad the race went well and you didn't fall into the "damn, they're quicker than me, I have to catch up" trap and end up pushing too hard and crashing in a big way. Good video, I'd like to see more.
"it wasnt until the next morning at parc expose' that i realized there was a gravel tire on there (completely worthless on ice) ... i was pretty excited and not really pissed just because i finally understood why the night before wwas fuking GARBAGE for grip. "
Ha ha, those sort of problems are a weird mixture of annoying/reassuring. You kick yourself that you didn't spot it sooner, but are relieved that the reason the vehicle wasn't behaving right was mechanical and not because you're skillless. I recently had an off on my bike and since then it was a bit wobbly, in spite of the frame/forks having been signed off as undamaged and the damage seeming to be purely aesthetic. I thought it was just me being shakey/lacking confidence on cold slippery roads, following a crash. It was only after 2 weeks riding like this, when I decided to soften up the suspension to allow more travel for better braking on ice, that I spotted the right hand preload had got knocked 1.5 notches out! No wonder it wasn't planted when I was leaning heavily. :D
I'm saving up to do a days rally training next winter (I only really enjoy cars on mud/ice). No formal prior experience, just thrashing my old, stock 106 on gravel and mud. Any experience/warnings you want to pass on before I do it?
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-02-01 02:34 [#01831702]
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put your helmet on. fasten your seat belts.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-02-01 07:27 [#01831865]
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yeah. that's about the first line of advice is not to push hard until you understand the car.
and trust me, once you get on stage it's difficult to do that. i was pretty slow on the first day, but then looking at all the DNF's it's kinda reassuring to just focus on finishing.
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