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theo himself
from +- on 2006-01-28 20:51 [#01829343]
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how?
increase high end frequencies, drown them in reverb? or get a sample bank somewhere? please help.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-01-28 20:54 [#01829344]
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it's probably better to make them sound less realistic.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-01-28 20:59 [#01829345]
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use sampled strings?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-01-28 20:59 [#01829346]
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or 'real' strings?
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theo himself
from +- on 2006-01-28 21:01 [#01829347]
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well I dont have an orchrestra or even a string quartet within reach at the moment, and I dont have any samples.. where at?
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exsub
from United Kingdom on 2006-01-28 21:12 [#01829349]
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you can get violin samples... then you can load them into your sampler for pitch detune.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2006-01-28 21:44 [#01829355]
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Combining a couple of sawtooth-wave oscillators might work. Maybe one of them could be the main tone and the other could be slightly detuned, then apply reverb.
This concept was demonstrated on a CD that came with an issue of Future Music that I bought about 6 years ago.
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exsub
from United Kingdom on 2006-01-28 22:00 [#01829365]
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i remember using an embracer (cubas sx) which made some pretty realistic strings!
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staz
on 2006-01-28 23:38 [#01829393]
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www.synful.com
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-29 04:48 [#01829460]
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impossible.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2006-01-29 04:52 [#01829462]
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an effective way is to lay down several tracks of synthetic strings for full flexibility of composition
then taking small sections of sampled strings (even a simple wave cycle) and make them loop and fade in and out in time with your synthetic pattern, this will add realistic harmmonies and violin noise and greatly improve the realness of the sound if done well
but it can be a real pain in the ass to achieve a satisfactory result :D
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-01-29 05:10 [#01829479]
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steampipe
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-01-29 05:34 [#01829496]
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Combing filters are usually the best for this.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-01-29 05:35 [#01829497]
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But r4of is right. Why make synth sounds sound real, when they sound perfectly beautifull sounding synthetic.
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theo himself
from +- on 2006-01-30 16:42 [#01830606]
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I want realistic sounding strings when recording certain tracks that I'm playing actual acoustic instruments on. keyboard synths can sound pretty silly in that mix.
what's a combing filter? like an FFT filter
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-30 16:48 [#01830612]
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nah its like a filter whose frequency response looks like a comb
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-30 16:49 [#01830614]
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its all about the PWM...pparrently http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Mar03/articles/synthsecrets 47.asp
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-01-31 00:38 [#01830872]
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Its a really strong resonant filter. Like steve mcqueen said, it creates a wavform that looks like a comb, through feedback that it causes in its outputed wav (in simple terms).
It can make thing sound either really metalic or really organic, depending on what kind of wav the base sounds are made with. I can get one to sound like pretty much any kind of string instrument with fairly basic DSP knowledge.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-31 05:19 [#01831010]
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"There is an incompatibility with Synful Orchestra and Fruity Loops. We will try to address this in the near future but we don't have a schedule on this yet."
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neuronaameboide
from palma de mallorca (Spain) on 2006-01-31 13:00 [#01831212]
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well, in my opinion, syn.strings sound as they are, syn.strings, producers like RZA from the Wu, uses them for me like no one else right now, but if what you really want is a real string sound, you must go to your albums and try to find what you want on them. Clasical, you can find very nice parts on minimal contemporanean music like phillip glass or steve reich...
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