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Prejudice against music made on the computer

cx from Norway on 2006-01-20 20:07 [#01823473]
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So people say to me "nothing beats playing an instrument"
and "PC is not as personal."
And it just makes me think..

For instance I can sit on the computer, recording a melody
up to 40 times before I feel I got it right.
I can sit and meticulously program a melody or a beat, and
then spending hours before I feel confident about it.

How is this not personal? How does that not beat playing an
instrument?

Also, the result you get is often more rewarding thaen what
a guitar and an amp could ever put out by itself.

i don't know but I hate this kind of ignorance.

hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-01-20 20:21 [#01823479]
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uh there is no 'better' way to make music. sure, you may not
be able to play an instrument perfectly quantized ad naseum,
but since when are humans perfect?

i don't know, but i hate your kind of ignorance.

pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2006-01-20 20:27 [#01823482]
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I know of some respectable artists who primarily produce
their stuff using a computer. In particular, there's Ochre,
Machine Drum, and Venetian Snares (who used a program called
Octamed I think).

Who cares what other people think. Use what works best for
you. As Sean Booth pointed out in the April 2003 issue of
Wire, "I wouldn't mind it if everyone had to use the same
three tools to make music because ultimately it's down to
your imagination."

Rostasky from United States on 2006-01-20 20:39 [#01823484]
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He's not being ignorant, just sharing his experience.

This probably is a 'better' way for him to make music.

hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-01-20 20:45 [#01823485]
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im just amazed that he can bother to be complaining about
prejudice against comp music, and then say electronic
"beats" acoustic music.

thats like a black/islamic/whateverraceyouwant person saying
"you cant be racist against me cuz im better than you!"

staz on 2006-01-20 20:53 [#01823487]
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cx isa twin

staz on 2006-01-20 20:59 [#01823489]
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oh, and this is an totally subjective matter... most people
are totally unfamiliar with how you compose and create music
on a computer, the common conception seems to be that you
just "press a few buttons" and a masterpiece comes out in a
snap, discounting the fact that you actually have to
consciously create something that's worthwhile, even on
the pc!. it's far from magic!

anyway, it's just as easy to dick around on a guitar for a
few minutes and create a mediocre rock tune as it is to
churn out some lukewarm techo in 15 minutes... although some
can actually capure some brilliance within that space of
time, be it electronic or otherwise...

staz on 2006-01-20 21:03 [#01823490]
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"an totally", what the fuck :(

Rostasky from United States on 2006-01-20 21:13 [#01823491]
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I think he is just saying electronic music beats acoustic
music for him.

But, I don't know, he hasn't replied. That is my view on
the matter, however.

cx from Norway on 2006-01-20 21:40 [#01823497]
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haha i said no such thing.
i said that electronic music is capable of much more than
what a guitar and an amp can accomplish.

guitar and an amp != acoustic music.

recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-01-20 21:43 [#01823498]
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opinions are like arse holes, everybody has one

dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-20 21:48 [#01823499]
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Sorry, but I've heard your music.

recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-01-20 21:54 [#01823502]
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w/out hearing your muxix cx, just a brief knowing that when
you create threads, they reach 500+(more or less)

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cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-01-20 21:56 [#01823503]
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post some of your music

cx from Norway on 2006-01-20 22:09 [#01823504]
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LAZY_TITLE

heres some tracks i made.
ive made like over 2000 songs now though, so its only a tiny
bit of everything.

Rostasky from United States on 2006-01-20 22:22 [#01823505]
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"i said that electronic music is capable of much more than
what a guitar and an amp can accomplish. "

? No you didn't.

cx from Norway on 2006-01-20 22:27 [#01823507]
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well are you going to be a fucking lemonade about it an
argue about semantics all night or are we going back on
topic

r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-20 22:36 [#01823509]
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what's "a fucking lemonade"? what is that?

"How is this not personal?"

it is personal. nobody is disputing your satisfaction.
congratulations on using your computer.

"How does that not beat playing an instrument?"

you like playing your computer more, but one instrument is
not better than another. if someone said, "which is better,
the cello or the snare drum," i would have to assume that
they are an idiot.

"Also, the result you get is often more rewarding thaen
what a guitar and an amp could ever put out by itself."

i guess if you don't play a guitar and are ignorant about
music, i could see why you would think that.

r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-20 22:46 [#01823511]
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hahah

i don't even believe you're a real account at all. you gave
it away with the lemonade bit. and all these websites...

scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-01-20 22:49 [#01823515]
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IT'S LESS PERSONAL BECAUSE IT INVOLVES LESS OF YOUR PERSON;
THAT IS, ELECTRONIC MUSIC GENERALLY INVOLVES THE TIP OF YOUR
INDEX FINGER WHEREAS DRUMS, FOR EXAMPLE, MAKES USE OF MUCH
MORE THAN THAT.

YES, I TAKE "ALL CAPS WEEK" DEAD SERIOUSLY

cx from Norway on 2006-01-20 22:51 [#01823516]
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im extremely tired at this hour, but lets cut to the chase.
"i guess if you don't play a guitar and are ignorant about
music, i could see why you would think that. "

i said the RESULT is often more rewarding.
meaning AFTER you're done composing, and you put the track
on in the living room to relax to or whatever.

the rest i agree with.

also what do you mean "real account"?
im not someone else.

r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-20 22:55 [#01823517]
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i said the RESULT is often more rewarding.
meaning AFTER you're done composing, and you put the track
on in the living room to relax to or whatever.

and you're wrong because you're describing your musical
preference as the "correct" music. there's plenty of guitar
music that's just one guitar and it is definitely as good or
better than anything you can do on a computer. just because
YOU don't like something, doesn't mean it is universally
inferior.

paolo_p from behind on 2006-01-20 22:56 [#01823518]
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Everyone is someone else.

Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-21 03:43 [#01823578]
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its because most people just think of music as two guitars,
a drum kit and a singer, and wont accept anything that
doesnt fit that. we must prove them wrong!!!!!!!!!

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