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could someone help me? i want to buy me some sony hi-md recorder, because i think that is the most cheap and good solution for some field-sample-recording. i just have a few questions about this new hi-MD standard. what is this all about? i mean what are MD's actually all about. are there normal wavs on them, mp3's or some sony own standard? how does it look like with transfering files between the md and a pc? i heard there are problems with it... this is a model that i would want the most: |
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mds are crazy cool for their price and what they can do (field recordings and such). sadly, i know as much about the technology as you do. |
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Well, that one doesn't look as though it plays mp3s. You can get MD players/recorders that play/record mp3s. Sony have just realised that the dreams in Mission Impossible can come true. :D |
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i'm just afraid that the quality can be shite |
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Quality is quite good. They use some sort of sony compression algorythm to discard part of the sound data, but not bad at all... Used them long time, rock solid. |
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what about that soundstage shit ? is it true that it doesn't let you copy a cd a few times onto md ? |
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oh and are the new hi-md's rewritable ? |
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One cd fits in one MD, and I suppose the news still as rwritable as the olds. And they never skip onstage!! Important if u have to place them close to a MuthaFuckaDrummer as I have to... |
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one cd ?? but on an old md i guess\ |
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Yeah, on an old one... Never heard of the new ones. I'll check that. |
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"Hi-MD is a next-generation format that has enabled the MiniDisc to evolve into a general-purpose medium for storing data of all kinds. While still using standard MiniDiscs for recording music, you can now almost double their capacity by applying the Hi-MD format. Sony has also introduced the 1GB Hi-MD disc exclusively for Hi-MD use, which has the capacity to store as much as 45* hours of recorded music. And, as a storage medium for PC data, it can also be used to hold images and text files." |
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I have the MZ-NH700, and thinks its great. I havent tried importing music from windows media or normal mp3's, just used the programme that came with it to transfer. It is very slow to transfer files. Another question: what should I look for in a microphone that would be used for field recording? will any old one do |
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sony has a little stereo mic that gets incredible sound portraits!! Dunno the name... used to have one... not anymore... |
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does anybody else have a md ? |
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Yeah, but not hi-md. LP4 mine is. |
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Old MDs can usually record on three different quality levels. On regular mode they can store the equivalent of one CD (80 mins). Then there's LP2 and LP4 that significantly increase the amount of time as they lower quality. As far as formatting, I'm pretty sure it's some special Sony standard, not mp3/wav/etc. It wouldn't matter anyway because you can't get a pure digital file back out of it once it's recorded.. it's like a cassette in that respect. Hi-MD's might be totally different, I don't know how those work.. I think you might be able to work with files on those. |
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as far as i knew, minidiscs used sony's ATRAC compression |
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minidiscs used sony's ATRAC compression ah, thanks.. that's the word for the Sony format I was trying to think of. |
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that's so fucked... everything is always compressed into atrac... |
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no, the new hi mds can record in PCM |
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I've got moderatly recentish (less than 2 years old) Sony MD and the quality is not bad at all with a decent mic. The only thing you have to watch out for is the soundstage wanky software. You can only put tracks from your minidisc to your pc that you've previously transferred from your pc in the first place (and also only 3 times). Thus recording stuff and uploading it with the digital cable is NOT an option (unless they've cracked the encryption now, it was a while since I last checked) so you have to upload tracks using a standard phono cable... |
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i have exactly the same you want to get, and it works pretty good, good audio quality, and easy transference, at least on recording tasks... (i just record md out with soundforge...) just one problem: the opening system (to insert and extract the casset) its a bit to rude and complex at the same time, it broke the md "door"... just be carefull while opening and closing the md and make sure not to loose the guaranty as i did... |
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ouch, thanks for that mcbpete. I can get over that easy enough I suppouse |
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not really - the one i want makes no problems with sending the files into the md and from it as melack said. |
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They must have changed the software then I guess. That's good news if that's true. |
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Actually reading melack's post, it looks like he uses the same method that I use (except I output to cool edit) rather than using the digital method. I've just checked the Sony FAQ site and under the Minidisc you're planning to get it says: Can I check-in music data that I have recorded with my Net MD into the SonicStage application? No, songs that you have recorded directly onto your Net MD from a CD player or music data that you have recorded via a microphone onto your Net MD, cannot be checked into SonicStage. |
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good clarification, thanks |
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the software that comes with the md (sonic stage) is very shitty indeed... i even had to download a patch to make it work in windows xp! i only use it to make music compilation from pc to md, then it works fine. |
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Can I check-in music data that I have recorded with my Net MD into the SonicStage application? NET MD - that's the secret. the whole series of net md players had that issue. but that one i want doesn't have that protocol - so everything is fine. |
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i hope everyone interested reads this post in time |
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