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i'm trying to find out about ways to make music without a computer. I don't know nothing about it. How simple can you get? I know about the MC-505/303, I might try and get one of them soon. I've got a drum machine, how little equipment could you use to make some tunes? Any good websites for stuff like this Oh and the Korg Electribe, what exactly does that do? It's not quite the same thing as the mc-505 is it? |
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making music without computer you say? impossible |
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nah. the white strips did it man. |
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which means, if u ever make an album without a puta. always. ALWAYS make sure the listener knows by 'bragging' about it in the booklet. |
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have you used one? its quite expensive. also it looks very frightening |
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i have an ER-1,havent a clue what it does,but i found a new home for it |
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haha |
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I cant afford computer programs so have to do it manually Im running a DR202 drum machine and a sp808 sampler, its good as a mess around and thats about it for me. |
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yes, I have actually.. it wasn't my thing, I need to be able to cut'n'paste more easily, but if you're recording, and want lots of effects and a good sequencer, this is it. it's also got a built-in drum machine/sampler/bass-machine thingie (the pads) that isn't half bad, actually... |
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I'll come over and show you some day. have a bottle of whiskey ready! |
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a bucket of grass |
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a plastic bag of semen |
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your on,we will party like its 1999 |
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I made using an ES-1, Juno-60 and a Yamaha MD-8 multitrack recorder. |
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I'll bring bean-bag chairs! |
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Oh, and the Korg ES-1 is a sampler/drum computer in one. |
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Dannn_You will need a midi sequencer of some form, and some synthesizers and at least one drum machine/sampler, and something to record it. I took my musicmaking off of the computer for good last summer, and I couldn't be happier. Hanal LOL!! You know, I never really knew what those were good for either. |
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haha its going on ebay,i want a vocoder of some sort. |
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buy a guitar. |
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or i might give it my dog |
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my dog told me to fuck off! |
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You're an idiot. If I were you Dannn, I'd get the Electribe A, E, and S. EA-1=Synth + sequencer, good for cheap 303 sounds. ER-1=GREAT drum synth. ES-1=Sampler with a LOAD of samples included. |
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You don't need a midisequencer, you can also use a cv/gate sequencer. |
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True, but if you are using a cv/gate sequencer you need something that quantizes the data in a way the gear recognizes, and have gear that has a cv/gate in. Some analogue sequencers don't work with certain analogue synthesizers. |
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oh im sorry your right,i shall set it back up and use it,and get it some brothers and sisters,and a hat |
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Oh yeah, watch out. As soon as all the other electribe kids show up, prepare to be flamed :P |
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Aparently this has midi out and cv/gate out. It looks pretty sexy. |
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Of course, I'm just pointing out that you don't have to use midi . |
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oh no,not more ov em |
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He could do it real old school like, without any sequencing. Four track and casios ;) |
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Hehe, true. It's possible to just play stuff by hand and synchronize it on a reel-to-reel or 4/8 track... |
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EA-1 works as a sequencer too right... so a drum machine and that could make some really basic drum and synth shit? I really know fuck all about what I'm doing I just want to get my foot in the door and then if all goes well I'll buy more gear I know I said 'no computer' but is there any reason not to just record to my computer? |
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The sound is the reason. If you've got a crappy soundcard then you've got crappy AD/DA conversion and it will fuck your sound up if youre an audiophile. Recording to tape is cool if you've got a good tapedeck or a reel-to-reel deck. You will also need a mixer for the mixdown. |
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whew lordy, what if i haven't got a crappy soundcard? M-audio reckon mine is 'high performance' |
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The m-audio consumer cards doesn't have very good AD as far as I know. But it'll work fine though. |
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Cool stuff, thanks impy and Taxy and futury and clicy and fuck hanal for not taking that photo a bit higher up |
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You're welcome and good luck! |
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can I be your dog? |
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haha january is such a good month as well |
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i guess were all talking about electronic music without a computer.... as there have been a few instruments about since before computers.... flutes and bells and sticks etc . . . . dont forget to implement the tried and tested methods in your modern setups. works wonders the electribes are great entry level kit, and seriously cheap second hand (in comparison to similar kit) though id recommend the sampling versions to attemp to sound a little individual. there are lots of creative drum machines about now. -machine drum (new version with sampling) -try any old EPROM based drum machine like the legendary DMX . . then use an oberheim prommer to burn your own samples to the rom. these peices of kit are seriously fun to use. -cicuit bend the boss DR110 (its cheap and analogue and has a classic clap sound, internally almost a 606. . . withough the great sequencer/interface...but build your own box for it) -alesis hr16/16b had good tuning in it. -roland r8 mkII includes classic roland sounds, has a good roll function and more good tuning. ... rob a bank and buy a full set of roland kit: 808, 606, 909, 303, 202, 101, 106 etc etc etc and get acidic! or a huge modular. depends what kind of music youre trying to make dannnnnnnnn. different tools for different jobs.....of course a computer with loads of cracked software on it is a cheap option and can produce many styles...but the screen burns the eyes... :( |
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i reccomend that new electribe sampler/sequencer... |
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Personally, I really like my MPC. I use that to sequence seven synthesizers and 5 multieffect units, with room for another 20 midi instruments, as well as 16 megabites of audio. If I wanted to spend an additional $150, I can upgrade the space to 128 megabites. |
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I've got an ER-1, EA-1, 3 channel mixer (PMC270A), and a KP1 (few other bits and bobs too, but they're rarely used). Split the 2 channels (each synth part) of the EA-1 onto the 2 main channels (ones with filters) of the PMC270A. ER-1 on the middle channel and the KP1 on the FX section. All in all, second hand could be picked up for under £500. Even without a sampler, you can make decent minimal techno with that sort of setup. Electribes are great for the money 2nd hand. EA-1 is a decent budget synth (not unlike Reason's subtractor, it gets slated a lot, often by people who use things like absynth/access virus and expect the same from an entry level synth, but is actually pretty versatile). ER-1 is fantastic, best drum sequencer on it (sort of 606 style). Even if you've got "better" drum machines like the 909, etc. the synthesis means not much else comes close for versatility (unless you're going to pay through the nose for a machine drum, etc). Best way to describe it is the bastard offspring of the softsynth Stomper Hyperion and a 606 sequencer, with a half-decent digital crossover delay thrown in. The EA-1 won't do anything unique, so if you have a good synth already, I'd give that a miss. Again, if you're starting out, nothing else for the money is as versatile imo. |
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