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offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-09 06:03 [#01814528]
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apparently theres some big guy in the sky with a beard who
made the world etc.
exists? Y/N
opinions.....


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-01-09 06:06 [#01814534]
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yes, and he made this place really wonderful. jav..


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-01-09 06:06 [#01814535]
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It's a woman.
And she is black.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-09 06:07 [#01814536]
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and naked


 

offline staplemouth on 2006-01-09 06:14 [#01814539]
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I'll be honest, I think of myself as Christian (i'm not
baptised though) [tautology!@?@#]
but you can believe whatever you want, if it doesn't harm
others then it doesn't bother me I suppose

1234


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-01-09 06:17 [#01814541]
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personal faith i have no problem with.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-09 06:18 [#01814542]
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yeah.. the problem is too few schoolboys.


 

offline staplemouth on 2006-01-09 06:18 [#01814543]
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Actually yeah, I really can't stand it when people force
their faiths down people's throats all the time.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-01-09 06:20 [#01814545]
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just as bad if the faith is science or atheism.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-09 06:21 [#01814546]
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yeah, religion is ok unless

a) you believe it literally e.g. believe the bible is
actually completely true

b) you try to convert people and force-feed religion e.g.
those american TV evengelist bastards.

richard dawkins is on TV this week in the UK!!!! (just about
sums up my thoughts on religion)=


 

offline staz on 2006-01-09 06:47 [#01814560]
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god is a woman and my mom she is a witch

i

like

this


 

offline nacmat on 2006-01-09 07:53 [#01814622]
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there is no god, there is no other life...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-01-09 07:57 [#01814627]
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that's easy to say now spanish inqusition is out of
bussiness.


 

offline nacmat on 2006-01-09 08:00 [#01814629]
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hahahaha true that


 

offline Sclah from Freudian Slipmat on 2006-01-09 08:07 [#01814632]
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IDM is God


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-09 08:13 [#01814636]
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you mean
Insane
Dog
Monkeys


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-01-09 08:44 [#01814651]
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"just as bad if the faith is science or atheism."

Silly man, science is a methodology for discovering
regularities in nature, not a faith. Are you sure you're not
thinking of naturalism? Science is limited to nature as its
sphere of investigation but makes no claims as to the
non-existence of things beyond its sphere. (though of course
particular scientists may also be philosophical naturalists
who make such claims)

And atheism is a personal position of nonbelief with respect
to the particular definite descriptions of God, not a system
of thought, faith, methodology or ideology. My own position
could be called atheistic but not faithful or dogmatic as I
am perfectly open to new evidence that could change it -
it's a provisional judgement based on the best available
evidence at the time.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-01-09 08:46 [#01814653]
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i think you read that wrong..it was put in a different
context, but hey, nice read there.


 

offline uzim on 2006-01-09 08:48 [#01814655]
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even if people really "discovered", with proof and all,
something that could be called "god", maybe it wouldn't
settle the question.

there would be people who would say it's not god, and still
believe in their vision of "god", people who would just
simply deny it, etc.

and just the term "god" can lead to confusions and quarrels
about what it really defines.



by the way -
"can god build a mountain so high that even he couldn't
climb it?"
: )


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-01-09 08:49 [#01814656]
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Yeah maybe. Sorry, this thing has a hair trigger.



Attached picture

 

offline uzim on 2006-01-09 08:52 [#01814660]
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believing in god as an adult could be the same thing as
believing in santa claus, in the easter bunny, in that your
parents can do everything, etc as a child...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-01-09 08:54 [#01814664]
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well, there's the bible and jesus christ..but there are also
santa clus children books so yes, i know nothing..


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-01-09 08:55 [#01814665]
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and just the term "god" can lead to confusions and
quarrels
about what it really defines.


Yes - a common trick of theists is to say that God is being
itself, therefore existence is evidence of God. I think the
best you can get from that is naturalistic pantheism a la
Lao Tzu or Spinoza, which is in my mind indistinguishable
from naturalism plus a sense of awe - it doesn nothing to
establish the existence of e.g. Jehovah or Ahura Mazda as
conscious, purposive entities with their particular
characters and natures.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-01-09 08:58 [#01814666]
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believing in god as an adult could be the same thing as
believing in santa claus, in the easter bunny, in that your
parents can do everything, etc as a child...


There are coarse and subtle readings of any myth. Only the
dumbest fundie yokels see God as a big guy in the sky. But
there's lots of them. :shudder:


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-01-09 09:02 [#01814674]
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I genuinely believe that's a picture of Fleetmouse.


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-09 10:25 [#01814758]
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I only care for me. Anybody else can go to hell.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-01-09 12:46 [#01814830]
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Google give you all the answers you need:

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Offering Six Straight Forward Reasons To Believe In God

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offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2006-01-09 12:56 [#01814831]
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get that santa cap off
xmas is gone


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2006-01-09 12:58 [#01814832]
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dunno if a god exists or has existed or not but...
imho no !

and if it existed, it would have nothing to do with
christianism, islam, judaism, etc.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-09 13:08 [#01814836]
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so far, you're all wrong.

First of all, the earth is a flat disk. This disk is
situated in the branches of the world tree, or Yggdrasil.
Asgard, where the gods live, was located at the centre of
the disc, and can only be reached by walking across the
rainbow (the Bifröst bridge). The Giants live in an abode
called Jötunheimr (giant realm). A cold, dark underground
abode called Niflheim is ruled by Hel, daughter of Loki.
According to the Prose Edda, this is the eventual
dwelling-place of most of the dead. Located somewhere in the
south is the fiery realm of Muspell, home of the fire
giants. Further otherworldly realms include Álfheim, home
of the light-elves (ljósálfar), Svartálfaheim, home of
the dark-elves. In between Asgard and Niflheim is Midgard,
the world of men (see also Middle Earth).

There are three "clans" of deities, the Æsir, the Vanir,
and the Iotnar. The distinction between Æsir and Vanir is
relative, for the two are said to have made peace, exchanged
hostages, intermarried and reigned together after a
prolonged war, which the Æsir had finally won.

In addition, there are many other supernatural beings:
Fenrir the gigantic wolf, and Jörmungandr the sea-serpent
(or "worm") that is coiled around the world. These two
monsters are described as the progeny of Loki, the
trickster-god, and a giant. More benevolent creatures are
Hugin and Munin (thought and memory), the two ravens who
keep Odin, the chief god, apprised of what is happening on
earth, and Ratatosk, the squirrel which scampers in the
branches of the world ash, Yggdrasil, which is central to
the conception of this world.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-09 13:08 [#01814837]
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In the beginning there was the world of ice Niflheim, and
the world of fire Muspelheim, and between them was the
Ginnungagap, a "grinning (or yawning) gap," in which nothing
lived. In Ginnungagap, the fire and the ice met, and the
fire of Muspelheim licked the ice shaping a primordial giant
Ymir and a giant cow, Auðumbla whose milk fed Ymir. The cow
licked the ice, creating the first god, Búri, who was the
father of Borr, in turn the father of the first Æsir, Odin,
and his brothers Vili and Ve. Ymir was a hermaphrodite and
alone procreated the race of giants. Then Borr's sons; Odin,
Vili, and Ve; slaughtered Ymir and, from his body, created
the world.

The gods regulated the passage of the days and nights, as
well as the seasons. The first human beings were Ask (ash)
and Embla (elm), who were carved from wood and brought to
life by the gods Odin, Hœnir/Vili, and Lóðurr/Vé. Sol is
the goddess of the sun, a daughter of Mundilfari, and wife
of Glen. Every day, she rides through the sky on her
chariot, pulled by two horses named Alsvid and Arvak. This
passage is known as Alfrodull, meaning "glory of elves,"
which in turn was a common kenning for the sun. Sol is
chased during the day by Skoll, a wolf that wants to devour
her. Solar eclipses signify that Skoll has almost caught up
to her. It is fated that Skoll will eventually catch Sol and
eat her; however, she will be replaced by her daughter.
Sol's brother, the moon, Mani, is chased by Hati, another
wolf. The earth is protected from the full heat of the sun
by Svalin, who stands between the earth and Sol. In Norse
belief, the sun did not give light, which instead emanated
from the manes of Alsvid and Arvak.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-09 13:15 [#01814840]
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is this true


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-09 13:18 [#01814842]
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of course - it's a proven fact.

my favorite part is when the cow licks the ice and creates
the first god.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-09 13:19 [#01814843]
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btw, Ginnungagap really rocks.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-09 13:23 [#01814847]
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this is fantastic-this means god is cool.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2006-01-09 13:25 [#01814850]
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yeah, one of the gods is cool. cool as ice...


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2006-01-09 13:40 [#01814870]
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We will always remember the day Father Arf brought us the
truth of the World Tree.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-09 13:45 [#01814877]
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im so happy


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-01-09 13:48 [#01814878]
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the big guy in the sky with a beard made naked women.
halleluyah.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-01-09 14:06 [#01814897]
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i'm of the opinion that there is no big guy in the sky with
a beard who made the world.

if this proves incorrect, i'm looking into a deathbed
conversion.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-01-09 14:08 [#01814900]
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we come to the question again : who made big bang ?


 

offline chaosmachine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2006-01-09 14:10 [#01814905]
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well some guy comes in looking a bit like everyone i ever
seen. he moves just like crisco disco, breath 100%
listerine. he says looking at something else, but directing
everything to me:

"anytime anyone gets on their knees to pray, well it makes
my telephone ring. and i'll be damned", he said, "you were
right. no one's running this whole thing."

he had a theory too. he said that god takes care of himself,
god takes care of himself, and you of you.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-01-09 14:14 [#01814912]
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i could go on and on about that. in fact, i already have.
so i'd just like to say that i think that's a very good
question...


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-01-09 14:45 [#01814947]
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accoring to christian's the world is only 10,000 years old


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-09 15:04 [#01814962]
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does god wear clothes,and if so were does he buy them


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-01-09 15:18 [#01814970]
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you mean, "according to some christians..."


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-01-09 15:31 [#01814980]
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i define a christian as a person who takes the bible as
literal truth


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-01-09 15:32 [#01814982]
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i dont really know if i believe in god, sometimes i strongly
do somethings i strongly do not

but, either way, i do not htink the universe was an accident


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-01-09 16:25 [#01815029]
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???




 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-01-09 16:31 [#01815030]
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thank you.

so, are we ready for conclusions and naked ladies ?


 


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