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offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-12-21 14:23 [#01804643]
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from democracy now! wednesday 21st december 2005:

In recent days, Senator Barbara Boxer, Congressmen John
Lewis and John Conyers, Nixon's former White House Counsel
John Dean as well as numerous legal scholars have suggested
Bush has committed impeachable offenses by illegally
ordering the National Security Agency to eavesdrop inside
the country without a court warrant.

Even conservative legal scholars have admitted the severity
of Bush's actions. Norm Ornstein, a scholar at the American
Enterprise Institute, said "I think if we're going to be
intellectually honest here, this really is the kind of thing
that Alexander Hamilton was referring to when impeachment
was discussed."

Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer of California said she had
written to several constitutional scholars to ask whether
Bush had committed an impeachable offense by ordering the
warrant-less domestic spying.

Boxer's request came after former White House John Dean said
Bush had become "the first President to admit to an
impeachable offense."

Earlier this week Democratic Congressman John Conyers
introduced measures to censure President Bush and Vice
President Cheney - not for the domestic spying case but for
misleading lawmakers on the decision to go to war in Iraq.

Conyers is also seeking the creation of a select committee
to investigate the Administration's possible crimes and make
recommendations regarding grounds for impeachment.

To back up his case Conyers has just released a reported
titled "The Constitution in Crisis: The Downing Street
Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution
and Coverups in the Iraq War."

To support Conyers" efforts activists have also launched a
website this week titled censurebush.org.



 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-12-21 14:28 [#01804645]
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yeah right. and martin mcguinness will admit he's a
terrorist.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-12-21 14:35 [#01804647]
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as soon as activists launch a website to support something,
you know the cause is lost..


 

offline mimi on 2005-12-21 14:35 [#01804648]
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too bad it will never happen


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-12-21 14:41 [#01804653]
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its amazing he can actually come out and say that and still
there's no way he'll be impeached. i wouldn't be surprised
if he won a third term.


 

offline staz on 2005-12-21 14:44 [#01804656]
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unless they're on geocities sites.


 

offline mimi on 2005-12-21 14:54 [#01804659]
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moether fuck!


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-12-21 14:56 [#01804660]
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I would be suprised, because American Presidents can only
run for two. Why are all liberals retards?
Bush is absolutey impecable. I think he should be made a
saint. He has brought back hope and justice to the average
American, after the dark days of that pervert Clinton's
administration. Hopefully Chaney will be elected predident
in 2008.
God bless ya, Dubya!



 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-12-21 14:58 [#01804661]
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i didn't think you were smart enough to be sarcastic, but i
guess i was wrong about you, herr troll.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-12-21 15:02 [#01804663]
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I'm being completely sincere.


 

offline magness from astroblaster (Antarctica) on 2005-12-21 15:30 [#01804678]
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i think you are the reason most of the world hates americans


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-12-21 15:44 [#01804683]
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lol I'm British! I'm actually pretty nihilistic and
apolitical, although I fing the right-wing "interesting".


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-12-21 15:51 [#01804686]
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the truth is always the best! :D

ha!


 

offline magness from astroblaster (Antarctica) on 2005-12-21 15:54 [#01804687]
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lol... yes; the british are the reason most of the world
hates americans. thanks a lot asshole! heheh

i'm glad you were kidding, i've always liked your posts


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2005-12-21 16:17 [#01804698]
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i'm glad you were kidding, i've always liked your
posts


surely his political stance shouldn't alter the way you view
his other posts? That's like saying you won't listen to any
Michael Jackson post-Thriller becuase he became white!
You're so superficial!

Racism! Impeach Bush! New Pope!


 

offline magness from astroblaster (Antarctica) on 2005-12-21 16:22 [#01804700]
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yah but I don't really enjoy his tunes like I used to
because I think now he gives me the creeps... i *am*
influenced by the halo effect


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-12-21 16:50 [#01804705]
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I do like Reagan though. Seriously.


 

offline BoxBob-K23 from Finland on 2005-12-22 00:35 [#01804791]
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you're just saying that coz you just LOVE thatcher, and
Maggie and Ronnie are best friends in the whole wide
world... or were, until Ronnie went senile and then down
under (no, not australia).


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-12-22 02:08 [#01804809]
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Swears for president!


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2005-12-22 02:42 [#01804818]
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Hitler apparently was a really nice guy when he wasn't
killing Jews.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-12-22 08:47 [#01804918]
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I would make a fuckin' awesome president. I'd have the Arabs
and Isrealis drinking bottles of Miller and singing along to
Journey's "Anyway you want it", whilst giving each other
high fives.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-12-22 08:57 [#01804923]
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impeacing him would be good
but you gotto get rid of the puppet masters as well, not
just the puppet


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-12-22 08:58 [#01804924]
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Getting them to listen to Boston, no problem

getting them to listen to Journey, now THAT' TAKES
DEDICATION


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-12-22 09:05 [#01804928]
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President Swears, who was elected despite being a British
citizen in a landslide victory as the leader and sole member
of the Fuckin' Awesome Party, was assassinated as he sipped
a cold bottle of Miller in the Oval office to the booming
strains of popular rock music by artists such as Journey and
Boston. A memorial will be held in which a ceremonial
Miller will be spilled in his honor. Police have detained
suspected gunman who has been described only as a "liberal
retard."


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-12-22 09:10 [#01804934]
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Never did Men wear greater Breeches, or carry less in them
of any Mettle whatsoever.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-12-22 09:10 [#01804935]
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21 gun salute sounded off while Boston's "Cool the Engines"
played in the background.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-12-22 09:11 [#01804937]
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heh, you are a member of FAP

FAP*FAP*FAP


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-12-22 09:14 [#01804940]
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SUDDEN_LOL


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-12-22 09:21 [#01804947]
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bush wont be impeached...it wouldnt serve any purpose


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-12-22 09:27 [#01804951]
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Who gives a fuck anyway?


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-12-22 09:31 [#01804955]
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the both of you are off the fucking topic.

waitaminit.

ok, sorry, you're on topic.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-12-22 10:23 [#01804975]
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The creator of this thread


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-12-22 10:26 [#01804977]
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swears...arent you british?

of course you can say who gives a fuck - its not your
country thats making such an ass out of itself to the entire
world...

(of course tony blair does do a good job but not NEARLY as
well as w)


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-12-22 10:40 [#01804983]
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I'm just kidding, obviously loads of people are obssessed
with the issue.
I think Tony Blair is okay, at least he's not a socialist.
I'll probably be voting Tory at the next election.


 

offline somejerk from south florida, US (United States) on 2005-12-22 10:46 [#01804989]
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it will never happen, even though he finally admitted that
the info they had on Iraq was crap.

as an American, i can say that he truely represents the
majority of our population, elected or not.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-12-22 10:49 [#01804990]
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you might regret saying that.

although i agree with it. i've been shot down very angrily
for saying things like that here before.


 

offline somejerk from south florida, US (United States) on 2005-12-22 10:54 [#01804994]
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why would i regret typing that? it's the truth.

many people here like bush, because he is stupid, speaks
slowly, and fumbles on big words, just like the majority of
the population in the US. there are a lot of people that are
smart and know the truth of the situation, about all of the
ties between the Bush family and co., etc. but most people
dismiss it as propaganda, lies, just too crazy to be true.
these are the people that live in fear of terrorist
activities that will probably never happen here and happy to
hand their rights over because they have "nothing to hide".


fuck these people. "total destruction is the only solution"
is something that comes to mind everytime i start talking or
thinking about politics and/or government.


 

offline somejerk from south florida, US (United States) on 2005-12-22 10:55 [#01804996]
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ps happy holidays


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-12-22 10:59 [#01805004]
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i regretted saying it here even though i explicitly said that there are
many, many smart americans..

but yeah. happy christmas.


 

offline mimi on 2005-12-22 11:04 [#01805005]
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erm i think people find it easier to take their population
being insulted by someone who is a part of it, you saying it
isn't really the same thing as him saying it.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-12-22 11:07 [#01805006]
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fair point.


 

offline glasseater from Switzerland on 2005-12-22 11:08 [#01805007]
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viva Evo Morales


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-12-22 11:21 [#01805011]
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somejerk is right...and as such...has consequently become my
hero


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2005-12-22 11:22 [#01805013]
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impeached? hopefully


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-12-22 12:00 [#01805039]
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i think thats beacuse everytime you post about politics its
very anti american. Your view on us as a whole is very low
and its borderline insulting at times.

But you know what... i live here and i see where you are
coming from because i get sickened by it too. ;)

Merry Christmas!

<3


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-12-22 12:07 [#01805042]
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in the same post:

I don't think any of these people reside on this
messageboard -- idm would be a little beyond them -- and I
do absolutely acknowledge the fact that there are
great, sound American Joe Bloggses out there. What I have a
problem with is this overwhelming majority of IDIOTS, the
sort of people who say speaking out against a government is
unpatriotic, even though that's the very freedom of speech
that they hold so dear as to inflict a horrific war of
plunder - in the name of liberation of things like speech.

...I just want to get across that I'm not casting a blanket
expression over ALL Americans (even though I stand by the
title of my topic, as I believe that something as
ill-concieved and pathetic as this could only come out of
America, where the #1 reason you are alive is to MAKE
MONEY.)


But yeah sure. I'm "anti-american". Happy Christmas. <3


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-12-22 12:16 [#01805043]
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For the most part i am too probably. too many
idiots...republican and democrat alike IMO.

For the most part its screwed and overly materialistic.
People know very little of what goes on anymore because they
are busy worked 45,8565 jobs to buy shit they dont need.
They pick a party and then bash the opposing without so much
as knowing that they are both horribly flawed.

Instead of debating about how to better the
country/world/universe time is spend on ruining the
opponants image through smear tactics and virtually bringing
them down to a point where i'd much rather vote for the
average McDonalds employee.

Democrats dislike republicans and act like condensending
pieces of shit. Republicans are stubburn to the point where
even if the answers where in front of them they wouldnt
change a damn thing. Neither party can benefit society with
their bullshit popularity contest.

My opinion: Just shut the fuck up and fix shit. I dont wanna
hear about it.. i want to see it. And until i do all i can
hear is the faint sound of some media journalist stroking
his undersized and out of commission salami to audio clips
of someone talking out of context about something else.

Fuckem all. Start over. The system of operations here is
showing its overall inefficancy. Time to start from
scratch.

just wanted to get that off my chest.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-12-22 12:19 [#01805045]
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:)

in your own words:

that was a good post :)


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-12-22 12:37 [#01805049]
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Yeah, in the words of punk band Crass, "Stuff the lot of
'em."


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-12-22 12:56 [#01805056]
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thanks! :D

swears: ah crass! That bring memories flooding back


 


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