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since dj's use discs and digital j's use files shouldnt we be referring to them as fj's ? i think we should |
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I have one set of Aphex Twin(1992 i think) played on hardware and it rocks! No shit like DJ tracktor looping, autosync and stuff like that just raw heavy analog stuff and it sounds...WONDERFULL!!! |
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People who think using vinyl decks is easier than traktor: Can you/have ever done a perfect loop between two copies of the same record for a minute (rewinding and cutting method)? That is: No skips; No mis-cueuing; and keeping it in perfect time (well, without going to oscilloscope levels of detail). I can assure you it is a hell of a lot more difficult, skillful and rewarding than clicking "1 bar" then "loop" on Traktor, knobs or not. |
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Mixing isn't all about beat mixing, it's more about the choice of record and to "feel" the audience. earthleakage: "mixmeister is excellent, i prefer it over traktor: It's funny that you mention Mixmeiser, did I recommend it to you? I do prefer Mixmeister over tracktor as well, simply because you can "read" the groove which isn't possible with tracktor as far as I know. |
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Honestly the only people who complain about Traktor are these 'real DJs' because their art has been diluted amongst normal people who haven't got the money or the space to have a full record collection and hardware set up. To the DJ perhaps the transition is the most important part, but to the everyman listening to the mix, the most important thing is the selection of tunes and the progression. So in that sense it is much more sensible to have a fat hard drive full of tunes than spending all my non existant money on an effectively tiny amount of records. I also think that precision is really important to DJing, I don't know if you 'real DJs' disagree but vinyl DJing is vastly more inaccurate and so it's a lot harder to be good. Essentially decks are much harder to be good at, god knows why you would want to go to all that effort to loop two records, not to mention buying two of the damn record. So MP3Jing is easier, cheaper, more precise, allows a better selection of tracks... I agree that mp3 only releases would be shit and owning a record is a unique experience but that's a side point. Vinyl DJing is probably more entertaining to watch but frankly neither is a real spectacle. |
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djs are wankers anyway. who cares what they use to mix their songs with? it's the music and how it's presented that is the main thing. |
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no its the show you make, *put your hands up in the air* |
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good points Dann_, especially: the selection of tunes and the progression, that is very important ok, now somebody please show us their skills with some fine slices of cheesy eurohouse and uplifting trance, best mix wins some candy, thanks |
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I can certainly see the plus points of MP3jing, not least having an effectively infinite record box, far bigger than you could ever reasonably tour with, fitting into a laptop case. It's also good to never be in that position of, "damn, such and such track would work really well now, only to realise you've left it at home" As to it being a spectacle, whilst I agree that for parties etc. the visual aspect isn't that important, I must point out that I could watch DMC videos for hours, I wouldn't say the same for people sat at laptops. I suppose it's the old hardware/software debate re: live use. Most people will agree watching someone actually playing keyboards and hammering akai pads is more interesting than someone clicking a mouse. DJing is the same. I've "watched" DJ teams of turntabilists live and found it as visually exciting as a band. Aesthetics/Vlari, I agree that the technicalities of DJing are secondary and that choosing the right record to play next is certainly more important than beat mixing something in that'll clear the dance floor. It's just that when the "right" next record is selected and it's added/mixed well too, it makes it perfect. Perhaps I'm a bit too much of a spotter, but for me 5-10 seconds of beats sounding like they're falling down stairs whilst someone badly beat mixes records and doesn't just cut the preceding record sounds so jarring that it does spoil my enjoyment a bit. As to making it easy and people who can do it the hard way resenting anyone being able to do it, I can certianly accept that's a part of it. It's a bit like digital cameras that do everything "auto" resulting in great pictures and all you have to do is get the composition right. Purists don't like it. |
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Aesthetics: I'm quite aware that beatmixing isn't the be-all-and-end-all of DJing but it is quite important to be skilled at it if you want to actually be good at the craft. The point I was making is that I find it easier to beatmatch with a real set of decks vs. traktor, and that people who say "Traktor does it all for you!" clutching at straws for arguments against DJing with MP3s. |
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