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in avant garde electronic music. have anyone seen some good ones? details, links perhaps? |
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perhaps 'll be up your alley. |
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all the websites i tried to look at are down for redesign, so, i guess not. :( |
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ive russell haswell opening for autechre, a noise installation in an art gallery done by professors at my college, and a visual / auditory noise show for a class i took...pretty sweet stuff im going to see pita thursday also ill let you know |
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thanks. what do i look for in these installations? this particular one is going to take place in some gallery and will be opened for about a month, featuriing quite a few artists i think..how will i know if what im hearing/seeing is good or shite? do i trust my own judgement? (the problem is my standards seem to be high or something)..this sucks.. |
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haha...well this is how i look it at... russell haswell does things to physically upset you, which worked, i felt kinda sick and uncomfortable and it was fucking LOUD and HARSH!!! - so if that is his goal...it works...and for some reason i enjoyed it (it did, however, nearly kill my friend who was on drugs) the art gallery installation i saw was cool in that they made all the noise from found sounds live - they amplified the floor, the tapping of people walking and scuffing, a refrigerator (for a sort of bass effect), the bar for clang's etc - it was pretty fucking amazing - it was like walking in an instrument the noise / video one was done all by objects the guy bought that day in a pawn shop - they do installations where he just has to go on the fly and every night is different i would say if you enjoy the noises / ideas then youll be fine - if you expect it to be conventional you most likely wont enjoy yourself and my standard for music is...if i can make something better / compose the same noises i dont enjoy it hope that helps |
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it helps..except for the last part of me making something better. i don't make music so from that perspective everything would be top notch :) but yeah, i hope to see/hear something like that..preferably as much improvisation and as little pre recorded sound as possible. i saw haswell before and loved it btw. hopefully the installation is going to offer something to really sense the sound in space..something different you get to see at most gigs.. i'll probably have to do an interview with the curator and probably some artists..i have no idea what to ask them yet, as this seem to be striclly technical perspective of sound as opposed to constructed music..i guess i'll have to go ask about this on some physics forum :) |
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http://longplayer.org/ is cool i dunno waht u were looking for really tho |
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nice thread... I'd really like to check something like this out some time. |
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russell haswell's cd is a piece of sound art. and it's an installation everytime you listen to it. |
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i just read what these sound instalations will be about. looks to me it's going to be more about the sound itself and not much to do with music. most of these sound artists studied art, architecture, sound exploring and stuff like that..im having a feeling this is going to be some artsy shit that won't give any pleasure musically at all. for example there's this one installation where the artist will process sound through his body..using body like a mixpult or something..and another one using organs to produce sounds..where another one is going to experiment with how sound will affect the audience and the other way around, how audience can affect the sound. it has nothing to do with music, more so with some fancy art that i don't dig at all..i have no idea what i am going to write about. ofcourse i can get surprised and it's going to sound awesome, but i doubt it.. |
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I can never tell if you're joking or not... |
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im always dead serious. hope that helps. |
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hahah, in that case you need a better self-confidence. |
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that's easy for a philosopher to say.. |
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hahaha in that case, let me ask you this: does the question "do I like this music?" sound like a valid question to you (if it does, you haven't understood the question)? wouldn't it be safe to assume that you already know the answer before you ask the question? I guess that answers your question about whether or not you should trust your own judgement. |
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yeah yeah, but see, what if everyone else likes it and i think it's shit? what if i miss something because i haven't studied art and sound engineering? |
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even though I'm pretty sure you're joking now: doesn't matter. music isn't objectively good, and I think you know that. |
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you may also substitute the word "music" there for "art" or something... |
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lets put it this way then. painting of mona lisa has this value to it that most people seem to appreciate...what if for example i find it to be shit? the thing is i will have to make a review about these installations most likelly and therefore be objective about it i suppose.. |
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yes, what if you don't like it and everyone else does? nothing happens. if you're going to be "objective" about art, you'll have to find out the "intention" of the piece by asking the artist and then see whether or not he's accomplished what he was trying to do, but I don't know how objective one can be with modern art, and certain pieces don't really even have any intention. if you're that worried, just copy/paste someone elses opinion of it. |
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exactly! "modern art" - i was assigned to do this simply because im one of the few that is into electronic music...someone into art performance would be a much better choice imo. i'll talk to the editor today and ask exactly what he had in mind, because im having a feeling he thinks this is going to have something to do with music.. "find out the "intention" of the piece by asking the artist and then see whether or not he's accomplished what he was trying to do" that is a very resonable point, and if i'll do this i might do it exactly like that! |
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from the pieces i've seen, talking to the artist afterwards really does help put it into perspective better, and increase your appreciation for it. of course, those who are good at explaining things can offer subtle but sufficient hints before the pieces, but most seem to be far better at expressing concepts through art rather than speech, so you're often on your own. i guess the more you go to, the more you grok the general concepts. |
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well, i've read what some artists are planning to do, but it doesn't really make much sense if you know what i mean..a bunch of philosophical bullshit which talks a lot but says nothing.. |
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that's art for ya anyway, I was going to write "Tolstoj" (Tolstoy in norwegian) the other day, and I wrote Tolstojed. |
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yeah, art..it'd be much better to send a philosophy student to write a review on that crap :) it's tolstoj in slovenian as well btw. |
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hahaha! I would probably write "food was good. no free drinks. 3+" |
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yes, that would show them..they'd probably quit art for good :) |
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go into catering instead. |
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haha :D |
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