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perhaps THE only magazine dedicated to non-Ibiza-style electronic music (heh heh) is not going to print anymore. This absolutely sucks, it seems they're "pulling a m3rck"â„¢ and somehow they think this is a good idea. I find this highly disappointing considering their explanation has a remote semblance of sense up until the end when they rope you into believing its worth paying $10 for a virtual subscription. Uh..... guess what guys, 90% of your content (gear and music) is NOT payed for by 90% of your audience. And now you expect them fork over 10 bucks after you took away their toliet reading?!?! Why does it feel like everything about electronic music is at a conceptual, technical, and emotional standstill. (fuckers) |
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One step closer to the Breakcore Monopoly. |
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have you heard the new vsnares? |
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Hahaha, you have an excellent memory. |
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BRAAIAKAKAKOOCOOOOOOOOOOOORE |
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hey glotch, you bought the magazine, right? you didn't just steal it out of the store, yes? or, if you read a friend's copy, he or she bought it, right? it costs $ to make a magazine that's good, even if it's a virtual one. i try to pay my writers, and it will cost something to produce this digital magazine. and the first issue is free! it bothers me most of all that grooves can't be in print anymore, but it can't for a number of reasons. we'd appreciate your continued support, but if you think everything should be free on the internet just because, well what can i tell you. sean groovesmag.com |
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thank you gl0tch and sean, this will of course be followed by a debate. we'll be back after a few messages from our sponsors. |
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Uh, guess what guys, your readership can't fork out $10 because, guess what guys, they're all below the poverty line but despite this, guess what guys, they're all keen on making electronic music which is, guess what guys, a luxury indulgence, but, guess what guys, we ain't ever gonna pay, guess what for guys, for what we appreciate, be it music, magazines or whatever, but, guess what guys, we'll sure moan about it, one way or, guess what guys, the other. |
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Sean- Actually, I own every issue. And of course, I'll buy the final physical magazine even though it will be free online. Simply, I'm opinionated because I care- even if the expression of said opinion is undesirable. As a matter of fact though, I was instrumental in getting some of the people you've actually written about to be avid readers of Grooves. SouthJersey/Philly/DELMassive represent. Anyways, I'm sorry if my original message was a bit tacky, this just took me as a surprise. I dont have a problem paying for a product when of course its actually a product. In this case it seems like its more a representation of a product, which of course, I'll probably end up subscribing to anyways. Ultimately, its a great way to alleviate printing costs, though I'm sure you'll agree the amount of estimated buyers of your magazine and future virtual subscribers to your website will be significantly disproportionate. People just dont like paying for digital content esp. when its of a more esoteric tinge. Unfortunately, what this means is general readership goes down and everyone loses - though I'm sure you've considered this and I trust you feel like this is the best decision. Regardless, I'm excited to see where this goes, though I will miss whipping out my Grooves on the john, or on the plane, or between class. Dogbelch- You're the funniest person I've never met. |
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eventhough gl0tch said you are funny, that post really IS funny. lol. |
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hi gl0tch, sorry for being defensive before. i am aware that readership will drop moving online and having a subscription fee will drop readership even further. however, that subscription money will allow me to get the best content i can and will make us less dependent on advertising. (ten bucks isn't a whole lot anyway.) in addition, the digital format will allow us to reach the rest of the world (outside the u.s and canada), where our distribution was really tiny--and without people having to wait weeks for the issue to show up. as i said, if i could keep grooves a print mag i definitely would, but that's just not possible at this time for a few reasons. in the meantime, we'll be putting most of our reviews on the web site for free and updated daily. a new version of the site will go up soon, too. so hopefully the whole package will become the best electronic music magazine on the web. sean groovesmag.com |
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Basically you're saying "Dan, please write for us, there's a blank cheque with your name on it if you just give us 250 words on the new Smortmore Vex Compilation" and that you want to see another picture of the dog that appearead in my kitchen. |
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Word. The only other equivalent that I am aware of that seemingly approaches what you are talking about is igloomag or em411.com, but their admin (many think its Bogdan R.) is awol and content just isnt what it used to be. So yeah, could be ripe for the pickin's... good luck! |
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your kitchen is grassy. |
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Wait till i tell Mrs deeb. |
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Yeah, I guess I'm sorta disappointed too b/c I always wanted to do a cover for Grooves. Woulda done it for free too. One of my faves was issue 9 the dark ambient robotic thingy cover and 10, the hip vectory one. BTW Sean, did RLR Robbie manage to get his Fake-techre ad in the last one? I think he was planning on using my Fake-techre Untilteduh design for the ad. I guess we'll have to wait and see |
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