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nacmat
on 2005-11-29 05:21 [#01789598]
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the best
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-11-29 05:26 [#01789603]
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doesn't hold a candle against zidane
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nacmat
on 2005-11-29 05:29 [#01789606]
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zidane has been incredible... but this is the 2005 award
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Krendo
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 06:15 [#01789621]
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He is the best playing at the moment, although Lampard isn't far off. Ronaldinho, though, can tear a team to pieces in a way that Lampard cannot, altho' I think Lamps is the more consistent performer. Also, Shevchenko and Henry aren't bad, and Rooney will win this award in the next year or two. I think if he was Brazilian he would have won it already.
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nacmat
on 2005-11-29 06:21 [#01789626]
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for lampard supporters
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Krendo
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 06:28 [#01789630]
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A lot of people think that. The only problem is that Lampard plays in the Premiership, so on some weeks he is coming up against fairly average opposition. His performances for England have been good, but nowhere near the standard he sets in the league. Also, in the game he refers to, Ronaldinho probably had the better game. If I can remember, Lampard did set up at least two of the goals, but Ronaldinho's performance that night single-handedly kept Barca in the game. Also, Ronaldinho is as good for Brazil as he is for Barca.
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nacmat
on 2005-11-29 06:32 [#01789632]
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lampard is excellent... but football is also about fun and magic... and in that way thats why ronaldinho is the best...
he has been world champion too... his football is not only beautiful, but also effective
but yes, lampard could have win it too... but he didnt, I dont think its unfair though
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Krendo
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 06:39 [#01789638]
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You are right, football is about the fun and the samba etc. The only problem is that many players who play like that look a lot better in highlight clips than they do in real life - as I am sure many rueful English managers who have bought from South America would agree...
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-11-29 07:03 [#01789660]
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You have shown awful football knowledge here.
Zidane has been shit for 2 or 3 years now, where have you been?
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nacmat
on 2005-11-29 07:05 [#01789662]
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watch any ronaldinho game since he came to barcelona... please
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-29 07:05 [#01789663]
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i agree.
ronaldinho is the best and i think he is at least as consistent as lampard.
shevchenko cant be far off... first player to hit 4 goals away from home in a champs league tie.
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nacmat
on 2005-11-29 07:14 [#01789675]
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actually I prefer xavi or deco to lampard
also etoo could have been a finalist
yes barcelona players all... I am not imparcial here
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-11-29 07:21 [#01789681]
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I'm English, but have not been brainwashed by the media.
Lampard is top 15 in the world, poor at international. Gerrard is top 50 at club level, nowhere to be seen at international. Owen is positively awful.
Buffon is the best keeper, Puyol is the best defender, Ronaldinho is the best midfielder and Henry is the best forward.
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Krendo
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 07:27 [#01789684]
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Deco better than Lampard. Come on mate, you're winding us up. He IS better at diving, though. Xavi is a similar player to Lampard, so the comparison is fair. I forgot to mention Etoo. He is a brilliant striker also.
PS. Zidane has never been, and never will be 'shit'. He is one of the best footballers of all time, even if he is nowhere near his best anymore. A 'shit' player, for a start, would not have won France the match against England last year, when he was the only French player worthy of wearing the shirt.
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Krendo
from Leicester (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-29 07:37 [#01789694]
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You are right about Gerrard at international level, penexpers, and you may have a point abt Lampard, but Owen is hardly an 'awful' player at international level. True, he doesn't do much, but he does score goals, as you may well have seen during the 3-2 win over Argentina. He is not a world-class striker, but he is the best goal-scorer in the country.
Buffon can hardly be said to be the best keeper at the moment, given that he has been injured for the whole season so far. Petr Cech is a brilliant keeper, although Casillas, Dida and a few others are also top-class (I couldn't comment on German, French, Portuguese and other keepers, as we in the UK don't see very much of them.)
I am also surprised by your choice of Puyol. He may be the best Barca defender, but they have a defence which I would say is less than watertight. Chelsea probably have at least 2 or 3 of the best defenders in the game at the moment. There are probably half-a-dozen Italian defenders of top quality, and Man Utd's very own Gabriel Heinze is an excellent defender, although of course he is out at the moment with a serious injury.
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-11-29 07:53 [#01789709]
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Nah, Puyol is the best defender. I had a video on him once I found on the internet and it was mind-blowing. I watch him week in week out and I have never seen a defender who is so solid and faultless. Nesta is close behind. Terry makes too many mistakes and Ferdinand can simply not defend.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-11-29 07:57 [#01789717]
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I know, a bit shit for two years, but he occionally shows some nice stuff. the thing with zidane is that it's in the details. a perfect pass, a perfect free kick, whatever. not allot of show like ronaldinho. but he's good also, but anyway, I don't know that much about football, it sucks anyway...
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nacmat
on 2005-11-29 09:19 [#01789774]
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puyol is great, and watch out for marquez
but yes, terry - carvalho is a great duo, one of the bests
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-11-29 09:27 [#01789779]
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ronaldinho
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nacmat
on 2005-11-29 09:31 [#01789782]
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I think england can do something interesting this worldcup...
carragher, terry, ferdinand, cole, lampard, gerrard, owen, rooney, wright phillips, beckham...
thats seems like a solid and killer team to me
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-11-29 12:11 [#01789886]
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Owen is shit
Gerrard and Lampard don't perform
Ferdinand is shit
Wright-Phillips doesn't perform
I can't believe we even qualified!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-29 14:05 [#01790020]
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yeah, he's a great player
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nacmat
on 2005-11-29 14:13 [#01790029]
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what do you mean they dont perform?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-29 14:16 [#01790031]
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theyre crap in bed
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-11-29 15:33 [#01790102]
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ronaldinho is an alien
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-11-29 17:51 [#01790307]
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at international level
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nacmat
on 2005-11-29 17:55 [#01790319]
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will you go to see udinese agains barça¿
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