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uzim
on 2005-11-27 13:16 [#01788483]
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i know they're two different bands (with probably nothing to do with each other except that it's electronica and the similar names), but i suddenly remembered liking a track i had heard some time ago by one of them (memory too blurry to remember which one).
so i'm starting this topic, which is kind of bad and stupid because its title is likely to trick people into believing they're related now.
sorry about that.
anyway.
can you tell me about them?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-27 13:25 [#01788490]
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first of all:
Orbital was 2 brothers. Orb is not 2 brothers.
What was the track you heard, btw ?
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uzim
on 2005-11-27 13:40 [#01788494]
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P.E.T.R.O.L. by Orbital.
(there was also Funny Break (One Is Enough) on Wipeout Fusion but it was very probably a remix... and a loopable version anyway.)
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-27 13:45 [#01788500]
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well, i can talk about Orbital. is that ok ? though i don't know their biography. I like most of their stuff except the very very old, not quite developed yet
those two tracks, yeah, ok...a, Petrol is from In-Sides, it's my fav Orbital album. Too bad i couldn't hear it played live.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-27 13:47 [#01788502]
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the orb used to name some remixes as orbital remixes. no relations though
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nacmat
on 2005-11-27 13:54 [#01788505]
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orb is more ambient isnt it?
both are great historic acts
uforb adventures beyond the ultraworld in sides brown album
all classics
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-27 13:56 [#01788507]
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in sides is classic, especially dwr budr for me. remember seeing it on here as someones perfect song..
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-27 14:03 [#01788515]
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i can't decide btween this one and Adnan's.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-27 14:12 [#01788521]
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layo & bushwacka! did a copule of remixes of funny break. they are both excellent and worth checking if you are not familiar with them.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2005-11-27 14:13 [#01788522]
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If I had to pick albums, I'd say Orbital's Snivilisation & In Sides, and The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld. I quite fancy the new Orb album too. Sadly Orbital have quit, even though Paul Hartnoll (one of the brothers) has provided a few tracks for Wipeout Pure etc.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-11-27 14:14 [#01788523]
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dwr budr was the track on that charity album?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-27 14:17 [#01788525]
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i started my adventure into Orb when i found Orb "Live '93" 2cd in a second-hand-full-of-heavy-metal-stuff-shop. I don't know how the album got there. When i asked the owner to play the album and he did - i could see one of the most bored faces ever. He was happy he got rid of it, i was happy i got it almost for free.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-27 14:19 [#01788526]
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yes
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-27 14:21 [#01788528]
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adnans was on the help album if thats what you are refering to? a short version anyway.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-27 14:23 [#01788529]
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oh yeah, that's the one, I usually mix those up.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-27 14:30 [#01788530]
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just in case you don't know, the last Orbital show is available somewhere near Loopz site, along with the last single/video, featuring Lisa Gerrard on vocals.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-27 14:36 [#01788534]
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i like Orbital2 (brown album) and it's the only one I've heard by them
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2005-11-27 14:50 [#01788540]
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actually I have 4 favourite Orbital albums:
brown=techno classic snivilisation=ambient classic in sides=idm classic middle of nowhere=pretty cool'n'futuristic techno
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uzim
on 2005-11-27 15:03 [#01788544]
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thanks : )
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-11-27 16:23 [#01788566]
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last night me and a bunch of friends were watching mortal kombat (ON DVD) and that track hacylon + on + on came on and i realized that i am a grown man who doesnt know the difference between orbital and the orb
and i'm perfectly ok with that
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-11-27 16:30 [#01788568]
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You don't know the difference between The Orb and Orbital, even though that's like saying "Cheese, Eggs... they all come from a farm, right?" And you wonder why no one gives a shit about breakcore?
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nacmat
on 2005-11-27 16:57 [#01788574]
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I know them thanks to you... they are great
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nacmat
on 2005-11-27 17:02 [#01788575]
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orbital and the orb are absolutely essential
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mcbpete
from Devon (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-27 18:48 [#01788604]
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True 'dat.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-28 00:26 [#01788694]
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Orbital>The Orb
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-28 02:24 [#01788710]
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The Orb > William Orbit
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nacmat
on 2005-11-28 04:26 [#01788751]
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I dont really think so... eventhough I like them more
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hkewell
from United Kingdom on 2005-11-28 06:13 [#01788859]
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I only found out recently that Little Fluffy Clouds samples Steve Reich.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-28 06:36 [#01788875]
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The Orb is realy just one guy who does loads of collaborating stuff.
Orbital are slightly better
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uzim
on 2005-11-28 08:38 [#01788983]
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i'll get the brown album for a start, i think. : )
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big
from lsg on 2005-11-28 08:40 [#01788985]
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from wire?
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-11-28 09:36 [#01789012]
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BELFAST!!!!!!
STAR 6 & 7 8 9!!!!
THE GIRL WITH THE SUN IN HER HEAD!!!!
LUSH!!!!!
THE BLUE ROOM!!!
That is all...I will now leave quietly...
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2005-11-28 10:09 [#01789034]
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The Orb is strictly speaking not just "one guy who does loads of collaborating stuff." I mean, Alex Paterson is surely the driving force, but the original The Orb were Paterson & Jimi Cauty (of The KLF fame). Most of the original The Orb alà 1988-1990 was their work.
In the early 90's it was mostly Paterson + Kris Weston ("Thrash"). Then Paterson teamed up with Thomas Fehlmann for several albums, and with whom he's now released this year's excellent "Okie Dokie It's The Orb on Kompakt", with loads of additional hand in the mix.
But the Fehlmann part of the equation is pretty stable, and not just a passing collaboration.
It's true, though, that Orbital were much more of a "compact" duo, with a clear division of labour.
As for who's "BETTER"... I couldn't say. I generally enjoy Orbital more, but The Orb have some highly intricate and more trippy stuff.
The Orb>William Orbit
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-28 10:31 [#01789051]
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yeah, on UFOFF the badge shows "patterson, fehlmann, hughes" - they are the three "main guys" i suppose
william orbit sux. adagio for strings, he didnt actually write it, you fools.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-28 10:38 [#01789055]
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william orbit was great when he made the bass-o-matic album.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-28 12:25 [#01789200]
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= both Orb and Orbital are great, yeah.
and btw
Orbit > Wrigley's Spearmint
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uviol
from United States on 2005-11-28 12:53 [#01789216]
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I love both bands but they are nothing alike. Over the years I've probably been more of an Orbital fan simply because their stuff is easier to listen to. The Orb usually takes more patience and attention to detail. Nevertheless I have quite a few releases by each of them, and I might even say I like the Orb better.. he's/they're just so bizarre and imaginative.
p.s. The Orb actually samples Reich twice, at least. In one of the Peel Sessions there is a great version of OOBE that uses another sample from different movement of Electric Counterpoint (the piece sampled in Little Fluffy Clouds). Either Alex Paterson was hard up for samples or he's a huge Reich fan.
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