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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-11-22 04:26 [#01784593]
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So there is a diffrence between Identity and Role? Right?
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-11-22 04:27 [#01784594]
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Yes, there is.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-11-22 04:28 [#01784595]
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But it was not always like this...for example 200 years ago
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staz
on 2005-11-22 04:29 [#01784597]
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ffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-22 04:32 [#01784599]
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np. Can\can - tago mago\04 - halleluwah - i love the beat in this track.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-22 04:32 [#01784600]
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Yeah. Well 80 years ago mundane meant factual.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-22 04:35 [#01784603]
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Identity is how you see yourself in context to your environment, role is how you choose to act in your environment.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-11-22 04:37 [#01784607]
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Exactly. But what if your identity is flawed....how do you know which ROLE fits best?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-22 04:43 [#01784613]
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IMO;
Once again, this is assuming that their is a yes/no, right/wrong. Its hard to discuss those circumstances when you are dealing with something as subjective as identity. Pretty much the only meter you can effectively use would be the general moral state of your environment or culture, which runs the risk of being "wrong" in the greater scheme of things, or the larger society.
There are two answers that I can give you to your question that don't break the subjective 'seal'.
1 - Do whatever makes you feel right. 2 - Do whatever you can justify.
Neither is right or wrong as far as I can see it, but if you can combine the two without using one as the reason for the other, I would consider that pretty close to having found both your identity and role.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-11-22 04:46 [#01784615]
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Isnt the enviroment I adapt my identity the same where I adapt my 'role' ?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-22 04:56 [#01784626]
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Yes. But if you feel bad about your identity or role, the best thing I could suggest would be to either change your identity, or change your perception of your identity. Neither is an easy path when you bring subjective paradigms into the equation.
I find most people don't choose their identity, so much as fall into it because they have been conditioned to understand that that is the way they are supposed to be. Unfortunately, in more 'enlightened' environments, it can be difficult to 'find' your identity, because the whole idea of right and wrong becomes a lot more grey. As far as I can see it, this is why in the more 'enlightened' cultures, people fit into their identity at a slower rate. Unfortunate side effect being that the less enlightened are capable of finding their identity, accepting their role, affecting their culture and generally being more productive, because the consious act of arriving at their identity wasn't a factor.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-11-22 05:03 [#01784630]
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Who exactly told them to act/be the way they are 'supposed' to be? The term Identity is coined by Eric Erikson right?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-22 05:09 [#01784633]
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I am not sure who coined what term, but I don't think its that anybody consiously tells them to act in a certain way. Its more that societies have a tenancy to condition people to fit a certain architype of identity, or identity pattern. Minor variences are usually allowed and embraced, but outright antisociality is usually frowned upon. For this reason, people usually either take an identity early on, or act the part of having not chosen. The latter is very popular nowadays. The only thing this ever really achieves would be the dumbing of the 'intelectual' groups because they aren't focused enough.
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