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offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-21 07:07 [#01783614]
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by velvet underground...awesomeness!

can you please name some more epic songs of this sort?

cheers


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2005-11-21 07:10 [#01783616]
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Chico - It's Chico time.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-21 07:25 [#01783622]
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preferably a song that was popular outside scotland as well.


 

offline staz on 2005-11-21 07:30 [#01783625]
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brilliant song.


 

offline xceque on 2005-11-21 07:42 [#01783637]
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I have a cover of Venus In Furs by Spong. I bought it for a
laugh but it wasn't as crap as I wanted it to be.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 07:46 [#01783641]
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venus in furs <3


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 07:48 [#01783642]
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venus in furs <3


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 07:48 [#01783643]
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bloody lag freexy cuter making me post things twice :S


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-21 07:55 [#01783644]
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nowdays we have tch..what's this world coming to..


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 07:56 [#01783645]
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hahaha
if i had to choose between the velvet underground and boards
of canada it would be BoC saying bye bye


 

offline uzim on 2005-11-21 07:58 [#01783646]
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i wouldn't have considered this song "epic" at all
actually... maybe i have a wrong definition; what's "epic"
to you?


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 07:58 [#01783648]
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im still trying to think of something similar but i can only
think of a silver mt zion as sounding anything liek that and
thats pretty far off lol


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-21 07:58 [#01783649]
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no surprise there..you seem to be a man of taste.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-21 07:59 [#01783650]
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remarkable i suppose..


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2005-11-21 08:02 [#01783652]
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velvet underground=art school pish.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 08:03 [#01783654]
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awww some one flunked art school :(


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2005-11-21 08:07 [#01783660]
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Their music is style over substance. And what style!


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offline Anus_Presley on 2005-11-21 08:09 [#01783661]
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style overr substance, hahaha. oh lorrd.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 08:09 [#01783662]
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i really like em cant say more than that, and if it wanst
for them we wouldnt ahve alot of the great bands we did

i mean christ autechre are technical jiggery over substance



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2005-11-21 08:09 [#01783663]
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i wouldn't call it epic eitherr.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2005-11-21 08:11 [#01783667]
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Exactly. LP5 was their last record in my opinion. Then they
went investigating their own arsehole.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 08:12 [#01783668]
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hahahs :D
still i do like the velvet underground and venus in furs
imo is AMAZING i really like that track.

Tolstoyed... Listen to Slowdive - Dagger


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-21 08:34 [#01783706]
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i think it might be "i'm set free" from this album


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-11-21 08:38 [#01783710]
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love this song and that whole album...

ps - the melvins did a very weird version of this song as
well.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 08:40 [#01783711]
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i need to hear that, infact i need to hear some melvins (im
listening to fantomas at mo and only melvins i heard wa sthe
millenium gig melvins fantomas big band)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-21 09:31 [#01783755]
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i should really talk to you a bit more about these rock
classics some day :)

taff, dagger sounds nice, but i really like that sort of
psychedelic, misterious touch in the venus of furs..not that
im looking for something exactly like that, but something a
bit more rich musically perhaps..hmm



 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 09:35 [#01783759]
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yer i guessed as much dagger was the closest thing i could
think of too hand


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-11-21 09:38 [#01783766]
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there's that weird pre-throbbing gristle droning
viola-playing on venus that really make it surrealistic and
weird. :)


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-21 09:51 [#01783777]
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i always loved pink floyds great gig in the sky for its
sureal vocal solo


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-21 16:24 [#01784168]
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ok, this isn't going anywhere..any other depressing,
psychedelic songs then..where's ophecks when you need him..


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-11-21 17:29 [#01784243]
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oh, how did i miss the second line of your first post? i
guess i got carried away thinking about venus in furs...

uhm... hgm... i'll try and think of one, but i'm drawing a
blank. have you heard of this band called sonic youth, btw?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-21 17:31 [#01784246]
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actually yes, but im not really really familiar with them.
maybe it's time i check them out properly. i know this guy
that probably has like 50 gigs of their various bootlegs and
stuff..


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-11-21 17:43 [#01784259]
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imo, their most depressing/melancholy works are Daydream
Nation and Sister. this could be disputed, but that's my
personal feeling on them. their earlier works are more no
wave influenced (though nowhere as fucked up as real no
wave), and their 90's stuff is more pop-oriented. my own
favorite SY albums are EVOL, Bad Moon Rising and
Experimental Jet Set...

evol and sister are both good starting points...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-21 17:46 [#01784260]
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cheers, i'll check out those two first..i think i have the
experimental jet set thing..


 

offline ymenard on 2005-11-22 22:59 [#01785173]
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Post-rock's string stuff hsa to give everything to VU&Nico.
That and detuned guitars played with screwdrivers.

Well, the Bob Dylan outtake of Desolation Row from Bootleg
Series Vol. 7 is dated from mid-1965 and it contains
everything that would be found a year later with the VU.
Knowing the connection back in those years between Dylan and
Warhol, it's no surprise. :) So influence to Dylan, more
principally Michael Bloomfield.

I love Sister Ray :)



 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-23 02:00 [#01785185]
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i'm wondering what the hell style over substance means when
it comes to music...

anyhow. i wouldn't call this song epic, but i would
definitely say it's got this really great atmospheric
quality to it... everything about it seems to evoke one very
creepy place... it seems like this sort of thing must have
been pretty influential on people like tricky (or other
artists who influenced tricky)... but that's pure
conjecture... maybe what i really mean to say is that i find
it similar.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-23 03:06 [#01785206]
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hmm, personally i feel this song is much heavier, colder,
spookier to any tricky stuff..tricky doesn't have this
mysteriousnes in his songs..could have something to do with
being 30 years older than tricky's music..


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-23 05:51 [#01785299]
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Tolstoyed if you want an epic try The Diamond Sea (by Sonic
Youth so that´s two hits in one strike) which is a 21
minute whirlwind! Possibly the greatest track ever ;) It´s
on Washing Machine, which is one of my favourite albums by
sy.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-23 05:53 [#01785302]
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cheers..i'll check that one out!


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-23 05:57 [#01785310]
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:)

other minor epics:

Smashing Pumpkins - Porcelina of the vast oceans
Tool - well just about everything, haha but if you try one
song by tool, try Third Eye
eh..

agh all I can think of is obvious ones :/ But I´m jealous
of you for not having heard Sonic Youth :) If you like them
you have a long road before you littered with great music.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-23 06:01 [#01785319]
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well, i have a couple of sonic youth records on original
even, but i was never that much into them..i mostly know
their later stuff which i don't like and im not familiar
with their early stuff so i hope there's a big difference :)


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-23 06:01 [#01785320]
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oh and for another Pumpkins epic: Drown. The full version
lasts about 8 minutes and it´s as psychedelic as they ever
got (and sadly very early on in their career). But I´ll
quit whining about the Pumpkins now; you probably don´t
even like them.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-23 06:03 [#01785322]
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well, i used to like pumpkins..back when i was into pop
music, and they seemed a bit nuts so that was nice..but im
not so sure about the music part :)


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-23 06:04 [#01785325]
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There is a big difference imo! The older stuff is much more
vital and energetic (and weird) and rocks a lot more, at
times. I recently got the reissue of Goo (1991 I think) and
it is superb; it made me lose interest in their later work a
bit. Although I quite like them old rockstars in their
fifties.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-23 06:07 [#01785328]
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well, try SP - Siamese Dream for the ultimate poprock album
(and it´s got some great epic songs too, btw) that´s what
I appreciate it for. I used to play it every day when I was
15. Ah good times...

That uncannily perfect crunchy guitar sound... Damn.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-23 06:07 [#01785331]
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excellent..i already downloaded 3 of those albums r40f
recommended, so i'll be getting into that now.

i like thurston moore's newer solo stuff a lot though!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-23 06:09 [#01785336]
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i might have that one, but im not so sure im still into
their music. obviously i think of them a lot better than
nine inch nails but it's still in that silly vein that
doesn't do anything for me..


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-23 06:09 [#01785338]
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I haven´t heard any of it to be honest! I think they are
collaborations? Heck, I´ll check it out :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-11-23 06:12 [#01785345]
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you should..perhaps start with the one he did with my cat is
an alien. brilliant record!


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-23 06:13 [#01785350]
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Thanks!


 


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