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...seen as 'Black Music', when most of the good/popular artists are white? Is it because it's roots are in Jungle or something? |
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i didn't know it was |
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yeah |
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.. who sees it as 'black music'? |
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1Xtra seem to think it is. |
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i'll just get on the "what?" train |
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perhaps you should ask them..? |
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They're not the only ones, it seems the media in general sees it as black (as if music has any colour) as hiphop. |
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what? ive never heard this before |
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perhaps because of the very tentative link between dnb and grime..? I'm grasping at straws here. |
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its a roots thang. |
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Well, its roots are in ragga, which is from Jamaica, and those guys mostly have dark skin. |
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I'd say "The Roots" were more hiphop and less DnB :P I think it's the most sensible explanation (even though it's a crap reason). Qrter: A good point, although as you say, a tenuous link. I'd say Grime is more strongly linked to Jungle in terms of the style of breaks and crossover artists though. |
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No, he's right. I've read it as being assiciated with "black" music a number of times. Don't know why, myself. |
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when i spoke to an "up & coming" dnb dj from new jersey who was living in CT at the time, he said that dnb was the UK's hip hop movement (for a weird analogy) - so that's why it had mc's, and was considered "black" or whatever i would think its cause of its roots... i also think drum n bass mc's are fucking pathetic... i also think drum n bass gets old SUPER fast... |
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I was suprised to find, at the time, early mid 90s, how many of the artists I thought were black, for whatever reason, the media, laziness, turned out to be white. |
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that's what happened to me when i started listening to white rap hence why eminem being white didnt impress me at all |
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I don't think anyone was impressed. |
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apparently youre not too in touch w/ the general public then |
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gerald simpson is black! bloody hell! |
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You got more replies that me but |
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i associate it with chavs i still love it though especially on the dance floor |
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i think DNB can be good, but i can't quote any example though same thing for me about reggae : i've already heard some good one (not bob marley) but can't quote |
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is jungle black music then? i think you could connect dnb to jungle by more than just 'roots' |
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OMGZ 1XTRA IS FACKIN RACIST "BLACK MOOZIC" WAHT!!?> |
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Its multicultral. Reggae / Dancehall = black Cheesy Quavers on Es = white This is all irrelevent the future is brown |
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i blame Carl Craig myself. |
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the terms 'jungle' and 'drum'n'bass' seem to be interchangeable, but they seem to be the mix between black and white culture, emerging out of the mix between house and soul 'breakbeats' |
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its because dnb is sped up hip hop drums. hip hop people are often black. |
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it is kind of weird to see it being associated with hip hop culture I don't really appreciate it myself because I enjoy dnb and dislike being lumped in with white "hip hop" heads |
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Goldie. Grooverider. Fabio. It's all about the innovators. White people have picked up on drum and bass since. And as for this "Is it because of Grime" don't be stupid - D'n'B predates Grime by about eight years. |
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Goldie is mixed race...you have also conveniently forgotten the likes of Doc Scott, 2 Bad Mice, Aphrodite, Micky Finn, Dom (& Roland), Trace and fucking god knows how many more white people. |
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Okay, but you've got to remember that most of the breaks were from black funk records, most of the the MC's were black, and it has roots in Reggae and Hip Hop. It couldn't have happened without that foundation. |
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It also has it's roots in acid and hardcore which is the scene both Fabio and Grooverider started in which has the media perception of being a white e's up scene. In fact it grew up from acid as did happy hardcore which uses many of the same breaks and is considered a "white scene". I may be completely wrong but I think The Winstons (the creators of the Amen break for anyone who doesn't know) where actually a group consisting of both black and white members. |
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WINSTAAAN! |
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Okay. I know when I'm beat. Let's just call it mixed race, like house music. |
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sorry i've become a touch hysterical over the past couple of days. it seems muppet christmas has come early on xltronic. |
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house music dervied from gay clubs didn't it? |
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It's nice. It reminds me of when I used to act immature (yesterday). |
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Did it?! NO!!! NOOOOOOO!!!!! *Burns all his house music CD's and vinyl, and disinfects flat.* |
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Well, the Paradise garage was a gay club, and that's where the term "garage" comes from. |
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is it? i dont see it that way. scally music maybe. but its good. teebee is good. |
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