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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 08:42 [#01773816]
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Im gonna get THIS one i think. I dont know much about violins as im a guitarist but i want to learn to play, also an electric one will be handy for recording as my mic sucks
Anyone know owt about the violin i should know techniques etc, i intend to teach myself as i taught myself guitar so any advice would be cool :D
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-09 08:44 [#01773818]
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you could atleast get one that doesn't look freaky.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-11-09 08:45 [#01773819]
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this may be common knowledge, but, I hear you have to hold a violin in your chin and strum it with your nosehairs.... might want to start growing them out since you'll be needing them.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 08:45 [#01773820]
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lol i know its ugly as hell, BUT being able to d/i into my pc will be handy plus the fact its quiet will be useful for practice without annoying everyone
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-09 08:46 [#01773821]
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wait till you see an electric double bass
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 08:46 [#01773822]
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dude id hate to see you play the banjo ;)
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 08:46 [#01773823]
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i can play the double bass
well correction i can play one song on the double bass
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-11-09 08:48 [#01773824]
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lol :D
while we're on the subject, a friend of my drummer roomate came over a few weeks ago with his electric violin... he was pretty damn good on it, and we all jammed out and it was good times. Other than that I don't really know much about violin techniques, sorry.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-09 08:48 [#01773825]
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The doublebass is cool.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-09 08:49 [#01773828]
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 08:51 [#01773829]
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im quite short so the double bass is difficuly ;)
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-09 08:55 [#01773835]
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i'm 5ft11 so the bass is fine for me :P
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 08:56 [#01773838]
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im 5,8"
but when i played i was ALOT smaller
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 09:00 [#01773843]
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id like to get a cello but i imagine they cost alot more than violins :(
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-09 09:06 [#01773850]
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I've never played an electric and I'm very out of practice, but I used to play a violin. Good move re: not annoying the neighbours- violins are one of the hardest instruments to get a nice sound out of and they are probably (bagpipes aside) the worst sounding when played by a beginner. At that price I could be tempted to take it back up. Teaching yourself, if you taught yourself guitar, shouldn't be a problem. I was formally taught for 2 hours a week for 2 years and I honestly don't remember much teaching bar "this is the X string and your finger here makes Y note". Only thing I can think of is practice your bowing a hell of a lot. Whereas plucking a guitar has only got a bit of variation (comparatively speaking) and the fingering for chords is the hardest thing as a beginner, violin I'd say is the opposite. Fingering is easy, but bowing can be a nightmare. As well as getting smooth strokes, using the whole bow and getting used to playing up and down and things like 2 up strokes in quick succession with no down stroke in between, you have to be careful when playing the middle 2 strings not to accidentally touch one of the adjacent strings at the same time.
Also, if you already play guitar, you should have a good laugh playing pizzicato. :)
Let us know how you get on.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 09:12 [#01773864]
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cheers dude most helpful, i tried a violin once years ago and bowing wa sinfact a BITCH. its really hard not to get that intense screeching sound that sounds like cats being tied to gether gutted en mass and then rapped by a fat ugly man cat. Anyhow i really wnat to learn so that i can eventually persuade my self to fork out for a viola, plus for the band im hoping to start it will be VERY handy playing violin. i can see myself spending the first month not even fretting anything and just working on the bowing, im really looking forward to it though, i love learning new instruments. I only wish i could get real lessons for piano as i kinda hit a brick wall there.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-09 14:30 [#01774139]
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If you can get a Viola rather than a violin. I found it easier to play because I have fat fingers. I wouldn't get an electric right away see if you can pick up a cheap traditional one first to see if you like it.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 15:14 [#01774173]
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its more about monetary constraints and teh plug in ability fo an electric one is far useful, i know i wanna learn and im not expecting an awsome sounding violin just enough to kick some ass and shred cowboys form hell on the ole fiddle. plus the quietness of non real thing would be handy as hell
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 15:17 [#01774175]
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oo maybe a real one would rock
only 50 quid nice
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oyvinto
on 2005-11-09 15:40 [#01774187]
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man, that's one ugly violin
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-09 15:49 [#01774194]
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Get the pink one and all her Daisy
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-09 16:04 [#01774210]
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i went for the purple one and i will name her petulia she will be my sex buddy and i will bow her till the sun come sup
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osiris
from Canterbury on 2005-11-09 18:37 [#01774302]
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how is a violin tuned?
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rasec
from mty (Mexico) on 2005-11-09 20:03 [#01774347]
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using a diapason
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-09 20:13 [#01774349]
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haha!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-11-09 20:27 [#01774351]
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it's a lot different playing a violin or guitar.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-09 23:56 [#01774381]
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I don't know much about violin, but if you paint that gold, and do some instrumental rap live, you need to wear that on a chain around your neck, so when you play it, you can look all cool and underground. Its the kind of thing that shouts "Old school" but also shouts "fuck you". The kids should love it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-10 04:49 [#01774455]
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Let me know what the sound quality is like. I'm giving serious consideration to getting one of them for xmas. At long last (3 years now) I'll be able to do my string based track "Vanilla Hub" as a 3 part violin track. Score!
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recaps
from keys on 2005-11-10 05:36 [#01774468]
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I used to play violin when i was little but i newer learned more than one song cause i was bad.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-11 07:28 [#01775410]
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it arrived today, i bought the acoustic one (that is a wierd thing to say). its awsome for the very little money and im amazed i can play scales after only 5 minutes playing around (the C scale that is), admittedly they dont sound beautiful but they are by no means screeches of death. The amount of rosin is confusing as i had no idea what to do with it, i roughed it up with a knife and stuck some on till i got a tone i think i might need to buy a shoulder rest as its a lil uncomfortable. the oddness is the reveresed guitar tuning. Instead of E A D G its G D A E so when playing i have to think of it like an upside down guitar with the strings going UP octaves. Hopefully after practicing for a few months ill get a much sweeter tone and more sure on the exact fingerings of notes. Applying vibrato is damn awkward as you cant do it like you do on a guitar. im hoping i can come up with some really simple accompniments soon to record. Im by no means any good its simple up and down slow bowing and changing strings is slow but im glad my guitar playing as enabled me to understand it alot more than just picking one up with no idea of stringed instruments. The bow tension is a lil unsettling im going about a pinky's width not to tight but with a bit of bounce (i read its not supposed to be too tight) also i keep detensing the bow everytime i put it away
hopefully if all goes well ill be able to record the album ive been wanting to do for ages without having to use edirol orchestral. A Silver Mt Zion look out ;)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-11-11 09:41 [#01775519]
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purple wood eh? thats pretty cool lookin
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-11 10:07 [#01775535]
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Electric violins are really cool. Real ones suck. I used to play the violin but at the start of this school year, I moved over to drums. Now I'm having loads more fun.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-11-11 10:09 [#01775539]
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Gay!
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ToXikFB
on 2005-11-11 10:13 [#01775543]
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violins are fuking great in music!
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-11-11 10:29 [#01775563]
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Case closed.
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ToXikFB
on 2005-11-11 10:33 [#01775566]
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funny man.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-11 10:48 [#01775578]
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my shoulder is killing me i cant get it to rest comfortably, i think i need a shoulder rest. also the bastard tuning pegs keep slipping well they were not now (fingers crossed)
but yer gonna atke alot of practice but i will endevour and rock your violin worlds
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-15 16:46 [#01778861]
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wenty to buy a shoulder rest, it cost me 25 fucking quid. much more comfortable now though i imagine i am holding it wrong
can some opne explain the rosin i applied it once and it sounded lovely, next day nothing and had to reapply it and im having to do it everyday, its REALLY annoying. Maybe i should buy better rosin
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 16:52 [#01778866]
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Wow taff, I expect to hear your Rossz album in the next few weeks...
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-15 17:03 [#01778873]
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hahaha if only :D
I think im aiming more for a silver mt zion
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-15 17:03 [#01778874]
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Sounds like you need to get the bow re-haired. Rosin helps the hair to become erect but it sounds like your hair is beyond flacid 8 (
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-15 17:06 [#01778879]
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its a brand new bow? the tension seems ok and its fine after applying rosin again just seems mad applying it so often as everywhere ive read suggests
maybe its to do with me slacking the bow everytime i finish playing
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-15 17:12 [#01778883]
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Slackening the bow is ok but maybe try a different rosin.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-15 17:15 [#01778887]
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yer im gonna buy a diff cake 2morrow
do you play?
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-11-15 17:18 [#01778893]
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No, my bird does and I'm trying to make her answer in plain english what I should say! Now she's saying you should take the bow back to where you bought it from and ask them. To be honest I think she's fobbing me off and wants to talk rubbish to her friends on the phone.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-11-15 17:28 [#01778902]
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hahah the joy of birds :) i bought it online so its out of the question ill just try a new rosin forst :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-16 02:32 [#01779019]
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When I used to play I only rosin'd it once a week (although admittedly, I wasn't exactly playing for 8 hours a day) and had no complaints.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-16 11:05 [#01779382]
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25 quid?!?! Seriously, I got one for £8. It may have been gay and purple, but at least it did the trick!
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2005-11-16 11:06 [#01779384]
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you should make it like the one in the revenge of the nerds
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet jams
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