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offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-07 16:29 [#01772380]
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who gives a fuck?

baby jesus gives a fuck. he cries every time you launch
maxthon.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-07 16:33 [#01772382]
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maxthon fucking rules.

i think UZIM recommended it, when it was still called myIE2.
thanks uzim!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-07 16:35 [#01772384]
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1: the entire mass of web developers give a fuck
2: "perfectly" must be relative then, as firefox
actually works better than maxthon on correct
pages. that maxthon is used simply becasue it renders "IE
only" pages only contributes to more people creating more
"IE only" pages, which are a fucking annoyance and one more
step further towards microsofts software(compatibility)
monopoly.

I don't see why you'd want to use an inferior browser that
promotes inferior web-pages and inferior web-development..?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-07 16:39 [#01772387]
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i am hopeful that IE7 will be better... although, the
screenshots aren't particularly encouraging.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-07 16:41 [#01772388]
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well, no matter what it looks like, they'll still be using
their own silly standards and keep fucking up everything...

*mumble mumble borders mumble inside mumble*


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-07 16:44 [#01772390]
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me-the-same. tabbrowsing is shit in opera. as i remember.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-07 16:45 [#01772392]
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they are making significant steps toward being more
standards compliant. it's still not going to be perfect,
but it will be beter.

linq

of course, it is just a reaction to firefox's surprising
gain in market percentage and it only has to be good enough
to stop people from defecting, but still it's a step in
right direction.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-07 16:49 [#01772398]
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These four bugs in particular will open schloads of doors
for more "modern" (a relative term since most of these have
been standards since like 1998) web features.

# CSS 2.1 Selector support (child, adjacent, attribute,
first-child etc.)
# CSS 2.1 Fixed positioning
# Alpha channel in PNG images
# Fix :hover on all elements


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-07 16:50 [#01772400]
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*holds up a sign saying "FULL COMPLIANCY OR PHUQ U
MICROSOPHT!" and starts marching in the streets*


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 16:53 [#01772402]
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The Beta isn't encouraging either.

Maxthon..... maxthon CHRIST IT SUCKS! I installed it and got
worried by the amount of shit trying to install at teh same
fucking time. I tried it, realised it was IE with extra shit
but the same fucking problems and uninstalled it.

Back to firefox for me. Ideally I want a 100% standards
compliant browser. Is that so fucking much to ask?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 16:56 [#01772404]
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If every major site turned round and said, we're going to
stop designing our sites so that they work in IE, then
Microsoft would quickly change IE to conform. That's all
that's needed. The onus wouldn't be on the sites/designers.
They could set it so that if they came with IE there would
be a warning about the site and how to remedy the situation
etc.

I fucking hate IE.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-07 16:56 [#01772405]
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oh yeah, don't get me wrong, i lose sleep due to my seething
hatred for microsofts business tactics. it would take an
unbelievably strong showing by IE7 and some huge fuckups by
mozilla to make me leave firefox.

still though, if i can ditch javascript menus and use :hover
on divs instead AND start using transparent pngs in client
sites i will be significantly happier.

(fuck IE. fuck it in its backward arse.)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-07 16:59 [#01772406]
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yeah

opacity and full css support is A+++++ grade!

I'm having trouble right now with a page that gets extra
scrollbars in IE no matter what I do unless I create lots of
container divs, and I shouldn't have to do that!!!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-07 17:00 [#01772407]
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word!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-07 17:16 [#01772417]
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god damnit you guys jinxed me! now my flash isn't working
with adblock either!!!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-07 17:39 [#01772427]
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a quick look on the comments for adblock, however, fixed
that.

adblock stopped development and adblock plus took over. it
works with flash 8. get it!


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-07 17:40 [#01772430]
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you using 1.5 ?

i am and i think it is great.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-07 17:43 [#01772434]
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1.5 of..?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-07 17:48 [#01772438]
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Firefox 1.5

well, 1.5 RC1, that is?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-07 17:53 [#01772442]
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oooohhh.. beta thingie...

no, I'm using the normal one.. didn't even know there was a
beta, as I depend on that auto-update thingie for updates...
heh...

is 1.5 compatible with all the plugins?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-07 17:56 [#01772443]
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I'm not sure about ALL of the extensions. But, I can verify
that there are compatible versions of:

- DOM Inspector
- Talkback
- Adblock Filterset.G Updater
- Web Developer
- ColorZilla
- Adblock Plus
- ShowIP


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-07 18:00 [#01772447]
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I'll hang back for a while and wait for some of the other
plugins to update, I think...


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-08 09:49 [#01772817]
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according to Ben Goodger looks like google is looking to improve tabs
in firefox.

Who's gonna be the first to try the experimental builds?



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-08 10:03 [#01772831]
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a large read.. what are they going to improve?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-08 10:06 [#01772838]
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basically, they're experimenting with the overall usability
of tabbed browsing.

only the top 5 or 6 paragraphs are the article... the rest
is a schload of comments.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-08 10:12 [#01772844]
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weird.. it seems to me it works pretty good already... at
least when in conjunction with mouse gestures...


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-08 11:39 [#01772888]
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Does that install as an extra to my firefox or a whole new
piece of ass?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-08 11:40 [#01772890]
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i think it is a whole new piece of ass.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-08 11:52 [#01772895]
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Fuck it, I'll give it a whirl.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-08 11:56 [#01772897]
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Well there's not a lot of difference to be honest. There's a
cross on the tab and that's about all I can see.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-08 11:56 [#01772898]
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adblock plus + warp site like each other. thanks for the
link.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-08 11:56 [#01772899]
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You are a brave man!

..A pioneer! I salute you.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-08 11:58 [#01772901]
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Yeah, sounds like they changed to focus order and moved
around the close tab button.

Personally, I like the close tab button where it is, but I
would like the "find bar"s close button moved to the
right-hand side for consistency. That's driven me crazy
since 0.8, or whenever they moved it.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-08 11:58 [#01772902]
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"changed the focus order"


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-08 12:04 [#01772909]
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hahahaha :D

I've uninstalled it becaue I I could see nothing worth
running an experimental build with. I'm sticking with
1.5RC1. It's working fine for me. 6 Extensions I use don't
work but i can cope. I'm not going to do that thing to FORCE
them to work :)


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-08 12:08 [#01772913]
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it's really easy to modify most xpi's to work.

7zip will allow you to open the xpi, then you can up the
value of "MaxVersion" in install.rdf and drag it onto
firefox.


 

offline nigel from marspan (United States Minor Outlying Islands) on 2005-11-08 12:12 [#01772917]
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opera is much better than firefox


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-08 12:14 [#01772919]
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why do you say that?

i tried opera for a few days, but i could never get into it.
it seemed cluttered and bulky. sell me on it, please.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-08 13:51 [#01772971]
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well, no


 

offline internode from Brisbane (Australia) on 2005-11-08 15:01 [#01773047]
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I just finished my experiment with Opera. I couldn't get on
with it but in mitigation it's mail client is top-notch.
Back to Firefox and Thunderbird for me.

And cheers to epohs for the goodger link, interesting
stuff.

If you like firefox and interesting extensions you could do
worse than take a quick peek at Flock.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-08 15:12 [#01773058]
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I did have a look at Flock before. I saw nothing that
firefox extensions couldn't do.

Maybe I didn't look deep enough?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-08 15:43 [#01773074]
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flock was neat if your into the whole blog sharing stuff...
but, i would rarely ever use that stuff so i saw no
compelling reason to switch.


 

offline tunemx from Budapest (Hungary) on 2005-11-09 01:57 [#01773344]
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Fasterfox: this just works!


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-09 06:54 [#01773531]
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Installed that the other day and I'm surprised that it
actually worked. I took it down from Turbo though to be kind
to the internet.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-14 11:35 [#01777656]
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does anyone know about any extension that kind of connects
to the mail server and checks for new mail, but it doesn't
retrieve the mail from the server, it just gives me a
notifier that I click and then I open the webmail in a new
tab? I don't like mailprograms.. they are the root of all
evil. however, having to have the mail tabs open all the
time is annoying, so if I could just get some notification,
that would rock...


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-14 11:45 [#01777662]
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i know there are gmail and yahoo notifiers... but, i don't
know of a generic one that will check any mail server.

:(


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-14 11:48 [#01777664]
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weird.. it can't be that hard, can it?

would it somehow be possible to use one of those two and
just change the pop server or whatever that mail thingie is
called?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-14 11:54 [#01777666]
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that's kinda what i was thinking.

it's worth taking a look anyhow. but, it seems like an
extension for this should already exist, nah meen?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-11-14 11:57 [#01777667]
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stupid firefox!

i'm gonna surf the webs on an abacas.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-11-14 11:57 [#01777668]
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yeah, it seems like a logical thing, but I didn't find it in
the official firefox extension database... are there
secondary ones?

I also don't know anything about the structure of these
extensions, but if they have plain text areas, I could maybe
find the variable for the mail server (if the entire
extension structure or whatever isn't depending on the use
of such-and-such a server)...


 


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