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Ubik
from United States on 2002-02-26 17:27 [#00103237]
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were you ever a Goth? so pretentious, spooky Goths... bad poetry, dressing up like the Addams family, white makeup on the face, red lipstick, listening to Depeche Mode, Cure, Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy or whatever the hell they listen to now.... "belagosi's deadddddd.... blah blah blah""
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grm
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-26 17:35 [#00103244]
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never come to the south east then, we're having a plague of the fuckers
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-26 17:40 [#00103246]
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No but I have some cool goth-ish music(Coil, Current 93, Sol Invictus, Death in June, Dead can Dance, etc...) I don't wear any makeup or black clothes or things like that... Is that OK with you? :)
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Kitty
on 2002-02-26 17:41 [#00103247]
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Coil is excellent
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sgt growley
from Deal (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-26 17:43 [#00103250]
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Sisters of Mercy had a great sense of humour, they did a cover of 'Jolene' by Dolly Parton!
But most of the Goths i met had no such sense of Humour and couldn't smile for fear of cracking an inch thick of white makeup...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-02-26 17:46 [#00103252]
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There used to be loads of goths at my local club, but they've all dissappeared the last 2 or so years.
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grm
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-26 17:49 [#00103259]
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ah, never coil never fail
anyone heard Volcano The Bear? they're very good and crazy...
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-26 18:22 [#00103295]
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i like Depeche Mode, the Cure, Bauhaus and the Sisters of Mercy but i'm no goth and never have been. You dont need to be a Goth to listen to that stuff.
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-26 18:28 [#00103297]
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I was at a club last year and it was a "goth night". My friends and I were joking about how they try to be different by being like everyone else. Then 2 hot chicks sat on the couch across from us and started making out. Now everytime I hear goth I think of the hot chicks making out and I smile.
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Ubik
from United States on 2002-02-26 18:59 [#00103314]
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i'm just bashing Goths i guess, some of the music is cool and is proto-"idm(stupid term)". i always found that with Goths, like with alot of Club "kids" goers, that the interest in the music was often obsessed, but very shallow... the music was just another accessary for "being diiferent", like the clothing, by acting exactly the same as everybody else in their group.
i worker with some psycho Goth chick once, she worked in her white plaster makeup, even thou it got all greasy and disgusting... she had various mental problems, used to have a "nervous breakdown" almost every month. used to get in fights/arguments almost every day with somebody. and she wasn't hot either. her nickname at the bars she freq. was "worlds ugliest chick". then she moved on and became a "fag hag" (thats what she called herself). so maybe my viewpoint is colored with a little bitterness and bad memories.
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JOB
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-02-26 19:02 [#00103316]
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Hey lets all look different, oh shit we're all the same again.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-26 19:20 [#00103324]
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I agree, i like all those groups and some other so called 'goth' groups. and i'm not goth. =) i went to a few NIN shows during their last tour and found a few goths i spoke to saying, they like to 'hide' behind the makeup. like it's a role they are playing, so they can feel free to do 'whatever.' perhaps they were the more theatrical types. but i can understand their sentiment. sometimes it would be cool to be anonymous =)
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-26 19:33 [#00103332]
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I went to a NIN concert some time around 1994 and everone was wearing black except me. I wore a bright blue hawian shirt with pinapples on it. It made me happy : )
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-26 19:36 [#00103336]
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hehehhe well i think i wore black a fewwww times, =) just cos i like black. but i wore sandles ..open toe no less..to a few and i was in the MOSH pit!! can you say OUCH!!
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-26 19:40 [#00103340]
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I've got nothing against black but I knew that a NIN concert would be a sea of black leather and PVC.
You silly fool you can't wear sandles in a mosh pit.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-02-26 19:42 [#00103341]
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i always liked grunge, but i was never into those alternative-clubs where everyone sat staring gloomily about. same thing, i guess.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-26 19:46 [#00103344]
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hahah i know i know.....i was such an odd ball at the shows. sometimes i wore white tennis shoes for comfort. =)
one time i even covered myseld in cornstarch......it had a nice cooling effect in the mosh pit....it was gone tho by the end of the show =)
gloomy at a DANCE club.....noooo....you must get up and DANCE! i love a few of the seattle grundge groups as well, alice in chains, pearl jam, sound garden, where have they alllll gone?? out to sulk? heheh
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-02-26 19:48 [#00103346]
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they're called nickelback or staind nowadays, i'm afraid :( talk about sulking ;)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-26 19:57 [#00103353]
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uuugghhh......that is NOT grunge IMO!!
*shivers at the mention of nickleback*
=)
*group sulk* ehhehe
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-02-26 20:00 [#00103359]
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i hear you! they were in a newspaper article today and they (nickelback) were talking about how they had a businessplan from the beginning and such. i mean, if you're in it for the money, that's ok, but don't let your innocent fans hear you say that! i'd be pretty disappointed.
anyway
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-26 20:02 [#00103364]
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On behalf of Canada I would like to apolgize for Nickleback.
We're very, very sorry : (
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-02-26 20:06 [#00103368]
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how about apoligizing for celine dion, bryan adams, alanis morisette, jeremy wotherspoon, need i continue? ;)
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-26 20:09 [#00103373]
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I thought someone already apoligized for those ones. If not yes were sorry about those too. But we did give the world Godspeed You Black Emporer, Leonard Cohen, Neil Young, and many other cool groups.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-02-26 20:16 [#00103385]
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and your hockey team beat the US! hurray!
;)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-26 20:18 [#00103390]
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for godspeed you black emperor you ARE forgiven as a NATION!!!!
wellllll i dunno....celine.....hummm maybe i'm being to magnamous!!
ehehheh =0)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-02-26 20:33 [#00103413]
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i used to wear a lot of black but i didn't consider myself goth. more industrial. i was into skinny puppy and NIN and stuff. but i never wore veils or blouses or flowey dresses or those pirate shirts. I knew this one goth guy named "satyrico" who had a veil for his laptop... tool.. I later found out his real name was Doug
Now, in seattle most of the goths are either tall overweight dopey guys or overweight stumpy girls.
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-26 20:36 [#00103419]
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Brian Adams anyone?
A crime that cannot go unpunished methinks.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-02-26 22:24 [#00103647]
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I used to be a goth with what could be called the second wave..was into stuff like Joy Division, The Cure, Sisters of Mercy Fields of Nepilim, The Damned, Soiuxsie and the Banshees etc..
Coil, Current 93 Death in June, Sol Invictus all were in one way or the other off shoots of the mother of all industrial Throbbing Gristle and Psychic TV and hence have their roots in industrial..and are still industrial if you look at the true definition of industrial, Paganism, Rituals etc were a core part of Industrial..which is quite different form Industrial rock a la Rammstien, Manson and even NIN to certain extent..
Dead Can Dance are a different kettle of fish once again..they were a part of the ethereal music movement that was big for a while and consisted of 4AD bands such as Cocteau Twins, This Mortal Coil (not to be confused with Coil), Lush etc...
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-26 22:35 [#00103655]
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goths aren't spooky
they are like clowns in black makeup and pale skin
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-02-26 22:42 [#00103661]
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Gothic, isnt that an 80s movement, where the participants listened to cheesy synthesizer music ?! EH ?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-02-26 22:46 [#00103668]
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I like Goths, they're pretty interesting... just not the really theatrical, overblown Goths. That just sucks. Gothic things kind of facsinate me, vampires and death and stuff like that. I don't practice witchcraft or the occult or anything like that, but I'm interested in it.
I've been ''accused'' of being a Goth before because of my mood and my complexion, hmm...
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-02-26 22:48 [#00103672]
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You know your a goth, Ophecks ;p
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2002-02-27 01:51 [#00103935]
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i was never into the whole goth thing...it all seems kinda cheesy..lol that 'goth talk' skit on snl is the best though...
i guess if anything..i was/am a spooky geek
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-02-27 01:57 [#00103937]
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yeah I'm interested in that kinda stuff too... Vampires really fascinate me... there's just something about a girls neck, and sucking on that neck that appeals to me... :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-02-27 13:51 [#00104628]
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canada also gave us skinny puppy. the godfathers of horror industrial and the only band logo i tatooed on myself.
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-27 13:58 [#00104634]
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I may look goth because of what I wear but I aint one. Its kinda funny when someone says "Hey, you cant like metal and Dance at the same time..." because the way certain ahem, "goths" are here is you cant listen to more than one musical genre. Fuck, Im into almost everything apart from commercial poppy chart shite like Linkin Park, Shitney Spears etc. :)
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-27 13:58 [#00104635]
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Aghh I can't believe I forgot skinny puppy. I feel so ashamed. I discovered Autechre after I heard the Ae remix of killing game on remix dystemper. I think the godfaters of horror industrial might be Trobbing Gristle though, but skinny puppy is one of my favourite bands.
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ggloom
from California (United States) on 2002-02-27 17:48 [#00104828]
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goth is scene is high and mighty in Calif which isn't bad, though most of the scene has "evolved" into the liking of EBM music like Apoptygma Berzerk and VNV Nation and a bunch of other horrible horrible eletronic groups w/nothing intelligent to say...when i'm in the mood, groups like Bauhaus and Christian Death are perfect
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ggloom
from California (United States) on 2002-02-27 17:51 [#00104833]
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goth is scene is high and mighty in Calif which is nice, though most of the scene has "evolved" into the liking of EBM music like Apoptygma Berzerk and VNV Nation and a bunch of other horrible electronic groups w/nothing intelligent to say...
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ggloom
from California (United States) on 2002-02-27 17:55 [#00104834]
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argh, i knew i hit reply twice
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-27 19:23 [#00104871]
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Skinny Puppy RAWK!!!
i be liking doe's doods =0)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-27 19:25 [#00104873]
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GET A TAN!!! ehhehe
btw.....queen of the damned (latest vamp flick) was NOT terribly good. aaliyah was so beautiful in it, tis a shame it's not a better movie. all style not enough substance to stick a toothpick in it! =0)
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-27 19:26 [#00104874]
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A goth girl introduced me to Skinny Puppy and I think we actually consumated our relationship to Too Dark Park!
Remix Distemper is such a good album apart from the autecher remix, which is rubbish!
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-27 19:34 [#00104881]
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I thought the Ae remix was one of the best tracks on Rymix Distemper. Most of the others were trite boring cheezy techno shite (IMO). At least Ae had the balls to do something new with the song. Well maybe there were a couple other good ones but not many.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-27 19:39 [#00104886]
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The Killing Game is one of my favorite Skinny Puppy tracks. The remix sounds like it was done really quickley.
Has anybody heard Doubting Thomas (Skinny Puppy at their best)
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-27 19:52 [#00104901]
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Yeah I really like boubting Thomas. Have you heard the Wild Planet compilation. It's all skinny puppy related projects (or at least 6 degrees of SP) and really good. Nice wide variety of styles but still flows quite well.
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-27 19:52 [#00104903]
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That's Doubting not = boubting
I'm such a tool ~_~
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Frag
from New Jersey (United States) on 2002-02-27 20:10 [#00104958]
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I like black not because it represents death, but because of it's other qualities, it's interesting.
It's not a color, it is only the abscence of color and light, nothing is truly black except black holes or infinite space. I've had to tell people so many times that the hair they have isn't really black, but dark brown. The black coat I own is not really black, but chemicals made to appear that way. It's a fascinating idea, really.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-27 20:14 [#00104962]
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have you heard Ogre? if not you should check it out. former skinny puppy dood's band....i can't remember his name right now tho =0)
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-02-27 20:15 [#00104963]
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