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oops -_- you're right. |
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Understanding isn't a matter of 'yes you do' or 'no you don't.' |
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How the hell is it not? |
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"unless you do "yogurt singing" - but that's more annoying and frustrating than anything else" wtf is "yogurt singing"? |
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Listening to music with lyrics makes you less intelligent. |
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Anyone who says something as sweeping as "I don't like lyrics in songs" is.. just mental. Maybe. You. Haven't. Heard. Any. Good. Songs? I can think of millions, MILLIONS of songs where the lyrics, combined with the music (remember, IT's A FUCKING SONG) create all sorts of emotions, impressions, reactions, memories, glimpses into the author, ideas. Goddamn you people are absolutely retarded. "I hate 99% of lyrics in music. The 1% being the genius idea of cutting up speech and mixing it in with the beats aka Ae/Boards " - that, really, is kind of BEYOND parody. If I was Ae or BOC, I would pay you hard ca$h, on the understanding that you never, ever bought, listened or mentioned our records again. |
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give hip-hop a try... you'LL understand onLy words Like: bitch hoe dick fuck nigga but the rest of the Lyrics is yet unknown |
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well duhhhh Anyway, yeah, lyrics are good, I like opera. I used to hate it, then I heard some Birtwistle and ate my words. |
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Come on. There's my understanding, your understanding and everyone else's interpretation. When I think of 'tree' my brain doesn't do some preset action that everyone elses brain does. How about encoded understanding, metaphors, etc.? Coincidentally, this directly relates to some Derrida I was just reading. |
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Do you know Anus_Presley? |
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not personaLLy... i've read his posts... i shouLd ask: why? |
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or have people telling me what to think about their music in it. Oh, see I didn't know that all lyrics are telling me what to think about their music. |
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Lyrics are conveying an emotion in a nice neat package that ruin the best part of music for me. This is my fucking opinion. Don't argue it. |
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Yes! That's right! The opinion of a mental and emotional retard, apparently. |
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it's a shame you didn't sing your opinion, then we could ignore it. |
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Lyrics are conveying an emotion in a nice neat package Ohhh, ohh okay, see I must have been wrong on that too. Because I thought that lyrics could serve other purposes that could; be descriptive, convey imagery, explore semantic relationships, etc. |
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It's not necessarily about being right or wrong here, Rostasky has a decent point, but so does mappatazee. If you're the type that doesn't want more explicit meanings in the music, which can be distracting in some circumstances, then instrumental music is the way to go. It often is more subtle in its expression of meaning (that is, if there is a meaning beyond the sound itself). If you want to think of it in terms of Derrida and deconstruction like mappatazee suggests, then yes.. lyrics don't convey any one explicit meaning, but they do convey an infinite number of meanings in a very explicit way. It's language, and as fragile as it may be by Derrida's standards, it is still a method of expression that is based around human definitons and human divisions of reality. The fact that they are words, not just sounds, means that they are going to specifically guide our subsequent thought processes whether we like it or not (unless you're an infant, or something). If it's heavily processed or in another language, then this effect is obviously reduced because we don't have the framework to evaluate it.. it becomes sound just like everything else. Both sides of the argument here are valid, it's simply a matter of what is important in music to you, and whether some level of semantic interpretation is enjoyable to you, not which form is inherently superior. |
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There are barn doors And there are revolving doors Doors on the rudders of big ships And there are revolving doors There are doors that open by themselves There are sliding doors And there are secret doors There are doors that lock And doors that don't There are doors that let you in And out But never open But there are trapdoors That you can't come back from :x |
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that's kinda stupid. you're a phony. |
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To me, it's two different ways of apprecating music. sometimes i want lyrics, sometimes i don't. simple as that. the best lyrics fit the chord changes and mood of the song. lyrics make music folk art. words with melodies that people draw inspiration from. a combination of the specific (words) and ambigious (music). althoug some would argue words are ambgious too. anywys, it's nice to hear the human voice. |
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Forrgive me forr being generral herre, it's impossible to avoid. I don't want to think about music You don't want to think about music... or have people telling me what to think about their music in it. Firrstly lyrrics don't tell you what to think about the music. Secondly they don't tell you how to feel, we don't all have the same rresponse to a thing orr a lyrric. When someone crreates something (lyrrics AND music included) they arre trrying to dirrect yourr thought, as all the mock posts in herre make clearr: if you don't want to be influenced by what you'rre listening to orr rreading specifically why listen to it at all. Oh yeah Either to relax or to set a mood are the two reasons you listen to music. That again puts you in the minorrity, on this messageboarrd at least. I actually do like hiphop when the voice is an instrument, not a means by which to brag about bitches and the such. I won't even rreply to that, you clearrly have no knowledge on the subject. Lyrics are conveying an emotion in a nice neat package that ruin the best part of music for me. Could you please find an example of that forr me. I can find you 104849685914562527 examples wherre emotion isn't 'in a nice neat' package. Like everrything therre arre exceptions 'mood music' forr example. |
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Yourr thrread should have been: Am I honestly the only one with a shallow and mainstrream underrstanding of music herre? |
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yes, you are obviously completely right. there are noother words than those in hip-hop ever. especially if you don't know any other english words. you've made a very educated post which you no doubt has put quite a bit of thought and research into. lyrics are #1! |
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It isn't a problem for me cause I'm french and I don't understand half of the lyrics in english songs. For me vocals are just like other instruments ; especially in hip-hop : I listen to the flow of the MCs and i usually don't understand a word. Only the flow and the tone of the voice matters. |
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BTW it must be good to know what the wu-tang and kool keith ate rhyming about... i'm sure I'm missing a lot of good words. |
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you definately do |
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I don't listen to songs that use minor chords because they carry too much cultural and emotional baggage and I refuse to be so cheaply manipulated. |
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I like vocals when it accompanies the music well, but not when the music just becomes a neutral backdrop for the vocals. I tend to listen to the vocals as another instrument and rarely notices the lyrics. When I start paying attention to what they're singing about it actually becomes a bit distracting to me. |
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retard! |
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;(( |
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If you want to know what I think, ask me, but I'm not going to argue over what I think. Especially if that argument consists of 'yes it is' / 'no it isn't'. Though, you guys obviously don't want to know what I think because I know for a fact that Anus didn't read most of what I wrote. Mapp might've, though I've largely forgot what we were talking about. |
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I agree. I just don't feel like listening to music with lyrics all that often. |
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Mate, I rread everry single worrd you said, don't avoid the point by coming out with a stupid comment like that. |
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I've gone to the efforrt of picking out things you've said that I have issue with and you rreply just by saying I didn't rread most of what you said. Weak. |
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Lets look at the logic. "You don't want to think about music... " OK. I said this. "Firrstly lyrrics don't tell you what to think about the music. Secondly they don't tell you how to feel, we don't all have the same rresponse to a thing orr a lyrric." Well, this isn't even logic, just a statement. "if you don't want to be influenced by what you'rre listening to orr rreading specifically why listen to it at all." Which I never said. "That again puts you in the minorrity, on this messageboarrd at least. " Ad populum. "Could you please find an example of that forr me. I can find you 104849685914562527 examples wherre emotion isn't 'in a nice neat' package." Meh, this is a logical fallacy as well, using the other person to support your argument. "Yourr thrread should have been: Am I honestly the only one with a shallow and mainstrream underrstanding of music herre? " This suggests at an ad hominem, while not directly one. I'm done with this thread. Get your last word in and let it go. |
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What? |
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You've yet to make a valid point. |
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