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Lackluster - lacklustre Luke Vibert - lukewarm Christ - christ, this is mediocre Ilkae - OK CiM- dim 70% of Mu - 70% poo |
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tch lol |
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it's true :( |
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Tch, Vibert and lackluster is great in my mind. |
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Autechre - Fucking awesome...ter |
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I'm glad someone dislikes Vibert too, he seems to get a lot of love around here. I actually like YosePH, though-some nice old-school acid stuff there. And he's great fun live. |
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CiM's stuff is well good..... proper early-idm styled stuff... along with all the great stuff on Defocus |
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Arovane (except some of the tracks on Lilies) Brothomstates (except his super smash hit 12" Rktic) Lackluster O9 Proem |
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I dont this thread... are we bashing or praising? |
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I dont get* |
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what? i love brothomstates. i feel insulted. |
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What are you trying to do, look creative with the way you wrote this? Draft 7.30 - Daft 7.30 for me. CiM rules, have you heard much of his stuff? Or is he only here cos you rhymed it with dim. |
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Arovane Atol Scrap is underrated but yes Lilies and Tides overrated. |
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what is lukewarm? |
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oh, i get it. i think. |
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I don't like Mike Paradinas nor Keith Fullerton Whitman. |
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i havent liked a single thing luke vibert has ever done keith fullerton whitman, greg (what's his last name) both seem to be doing something that only art snobs like...i dont care for their stuff at all...its boring... hrvatski, as an alias and alternate style, is cool though!!! |
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Completely disagree on the Lackluster front, his music is superb. But I generally don't listen to the hype (or the internets for that matter) and let my ears dictate what I like and dislike. |
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Proem doesnt belong on this list, Sclah. He is neither hyped-up or mediocre, he's fantastic and slept upon far too often. "Socially Inpet" is a near perfect album, and beats almost all IDM released this year. IDM Letdowns: Ultravisitor Campfire Headphase Cautella Analords (all but 10) and pretty much everything Venetian Snares. That's not to say I don't like all those albums (and Snares), I do, it's just that they did not live up to the general hype nor my expectations. |
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i agree with wolfslice, except for the vsnares stuff, some of his shit is great...you cant listen to too much for extended periods of time, but in doses he is sick...!...rossz cadagajklsdg salkjgalksdjg is a great album...simply beautiful...! analord gets my vote for worst release, of any genre from this year (minus cilonen and fenixfunk) two good songs out of 11 records...yikes |
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Richard Devine should be here |
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a little harsh |
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it seems there is a group of people who are friends and seem to be their only fans...keith fullerton, greg, otto von, etc etc etc they only seem to think they're good richard devine should be respected for his work with native instruments !!! and his lipswitch ep was great |
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I do like Vsnares actually... it's just every time he's about to release an album the topics flare up and the Snares is great/Snares sucks stuff builds this hype machine.... and the album is usually trash except for 2 or 3 songs. "Fire Beats," "Find Candice," and "Chinaski" are great tunes. |
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arovane is lovely. tides, lillies, icol diston, atol scrap - all solid releases. nothing groundbreaking, just good to listen to. |
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just like b. fleischmann...nothing too outstanding...just solid good music - and i bet you $1,000 when im 40+ i wont give shit one about breakcore / vsnares / type things but will still like arovave, ulrich schnauss, b fleisch, etc etc word dilly ! |
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I wouldn't say that many of these releases are that mediocre. It is just the hype that makes them seem like this. That is the way of the modern music industry, also the internet has spoilt the way music is released theses days. Instead of waiting for the album to come out and going down the record shop first thing monday morning to pick it up, you can download it (or fakes) for free from some shitty file sharing network. For me, this takes away so much of the enjoyment of being a music lover. When Geogaddi came out, I caught the bus into town the day it was released and bought a copy before I had to start work, took it home and had a listen, not knowing what to expect. I wasn't dissapointed, maybe thats because there was less hype behind releases back then. A better example would be when I bought a copy of Spanners by The Black Dog. Never heard of them, didn't know what it would sound like and had no expectations. Completely blown away. Perhaps we expect too much these days from an album? Lets face it, we know what to expect now. |
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The Spanners tale goes back to 1994, btw. |
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I agree FULLY with what Bob says there. Hardly any of the records mentioned in here are "medicore", CiM... come on, that's just your personal taste. And being, what 17 and you got into Ae with Confield, what thinks you can dismiss great swathes of music just 'cause you don't get it. And a lot of the people that dismiss The Campfire Headphase, how many of them actually bought it and listened to it? And how many downloaded dubious mps and skipped through them going "Oh no, no, no beats... no... This album is rubbish" in ten minutes. |
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I dig Arovane in small portions. Vibert is almost always brilliant. TCH was sweet as hell. I think I'll say Richard Devine. Actually, he's gone below mediocre for me. |
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well first things first: we are able to get our hands on SO much music SO much faster than before i remember when i used to have to save my allowance to buy a disc and even if it was shit i listened to it non-stop cause i couldnt afford another right then times have changed...drastically... BUT this in turn does two things...gives us higher standards (which i think is good), and allows us to be more discerning with our money - soulseek has allowed me to save hundreds of dollars on shitty music i wouldve had to buy before that doesnt, however, mean that shitty music is good - there are artists and albums that just suck...like the new BOC...its bad...i wouldnt like it if i were 7, or 90, or 24 (as i currently am) - its taste, opinion, whatever...its still bullshit as far as im concerned |
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also if youre like me you dont want to waste more than 10 minutes on something that is shit cause there are SO many releases out there you will love immediately...why waste my time? i used to do that when i didnt have piles of records around...now i do...fuck giving people their time...prove something in your 10 mins or enjoy the "used" bin |
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I think that the way music is marketed and distributed these days has a lot to answer for. Also messageboards like this place, where people build a new release up into some life-changing album. Then when people hear it after downloading it on slsk, they come back and slate a release, resulting in people who haven't heard it feeling that it is going to be shit. I bet the next big release; whatever that may be, will follow the same boring pattern: Hype-hype-hype/leaks/fake leaks/slated album. |
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What you're saying is quite true, and also look at the economics of it: record companies have said in the past that their successes subsidize their failures - the few big hits help offset the many more releaswes that don't do so well. However in the case of small labels, they don't have as much of a "float" and can't afford to release stuff that they're not certain will sell at all, even if it's a labor of love. So now instead of people buying CDs they cherish, they make snap judgements based on downloading, whereas in the past if they invested money in a release they'd give it time to grow... maybe it's one of those growers... and eventually maybe they come to love it and recommend it to others. So the result is that independent labels are going to either make less money (which they can't really afford, so they'll just close) or release only music that people get on first listen. That means less diversity and less depth in music. |
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I don't understand how on earth you would consider TCH shit. Everyone with a feeling for good music likes it, my father, my brother, my friends and I bet even my mother if I'd shown it to her. |
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well...i use slsk as a preview resource BECAUSE i didnt know anything about an artists new release and assumed it would be good, bought, and was pissed take, shit, mr oizo's new one - i LOVED analog worms, bought it for $25 on vinyl, no complaints - had i done that with his new one i would have shit my pants - i cant afford to piss away money on shit releases from artists - and i dont care about the release date cause nothing is worth waiting for anymore - and the things that ARE, AREN'T leaked - it seems that experimental / electronic music is hit so hard by this causa the computer suave kids, and the fact they give their "friends" advanced copies...their fault...not mine...make better music worth buying |
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i used to do that when i didnt have piles of records around...now i do...fuck giving people their time...prove something in your 10 mins or enjoy the "used" bin That is INSANE, sorry. |
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the new BOC has nothing for me...sorry |
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and its not insane...wasting your time on earth with releases that arent good is useless...one listen that's all you get...if im in a weird mood, or just not "getting it", sorry...who cares...other things to listen to |
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Fucking ridiculous! |
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Here's a gun, find your corner. |
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fucking ridiculous if i had time to waste which i dont |
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yeah im gonna kill myself over BOC...keep dreaming |
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milf hunter? |
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Music isn't about the Quest to find The Ceritfiably Best Music, with the internet, music sems to have become some vast Multiplayer Immersive Adventure, everyone racing to gather as much as they can. Music should be a relationship, a flawed one, one with dips, high points... music's personal, you grow with an album, with songs, the more you put in the more you get out. This kind of spastic grabbing at everything and insta-filtering just looking for the "hit", that sounds like some crack addict approach. Appreciate music. |
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So you're in complete panic all the time because your life will end some day? You have a schedule saying how to efficiently distribute your time in order to get "the most" out of it? You should give this whole living thing a break. Chill out, put on some music and let it sink in for more than ten minutes. Absorb. Impressions can deceive you. But whatever. |
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haha yeah i have a 'schedule' and a day planner haha no, actually, i dont, and yes i do let things sink in however after listening to the new BOC three times i realized it wasnt worth anything to me...sorry if that bothers you... id rather listen to jazz records and drink beers...that is my kinda soaking in...not some new crappy electronic release after i get high and sit at my computer in my mom's house... not my thing...sorry everyone |
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euphonicfilter isn't wrong just because he's arrogant and obnoxious. i might agree with him if i hadn't discovered that my immediate reactions to complex works of art did not always reflect accurately my long term perspective. whatever works for you. i agree that the overwhelming quantity of music and media available inevitably results in having frequently to wade knee deep in chaff. blessed and cursed by overabundance. |
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