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offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-10-17 10:15 [#01752452]
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I want to buy a turntable, but i don't really want some
fancy smanchy turntable, just something cheap that can play
vinyls. I wouldn't mind getting something second hand, made
in the 80's or 90's but if I can find a new relatively
affordable, and reliable turntable I wouldn't really mind.

Any suggestions?

(Also, if you know of any place online selling old electric
console organs please let me know)


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-10-17 10:17 [#01752457]
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Look in the classified ads. There's usually tons in my local
paper. I don't know about South Africa though.


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-10-17 10:31 [#01752487]
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i'll check the classifieds at the end of the month.

i'm also wondering about replacing needles and all kinds of
jazz involved in maintaining a player. i recently acquired
some really old vinyls but i'm completely ignorant about the
player. please anyone spew as much as you know about this,
without getting too technical (in lamens terms).


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-10-17 11:01 [#01752512]
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I just buy new needles now and again and pick off the fluff.
I don't really know much about the technical side of decks.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-17 11:17 [#01752524]
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how much money do you want to spend?


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-10-17 11:19 [#01752530]
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+- R3000



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-17 11:19 [#01752531]
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R?


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-10-17 11:21 [#01752532]
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preferably -. i was going to buy an organ but when i finally
had enough money the thing was sold out!


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-10-17 11:23 [#01752534]
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about 260 british pounds

R = Rands (SA currency)


 

offline pylonbitch from Samoa on 2005-10-17 11:27 [#01752536]
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you can get a pretty good deck for about 260 quids.

if it's for listening, get a belt drive... rega, planar,
project do good entry level stuff.

make sure your amp has a 'phono' input, otherwise you'll
need to budget for a phono amping/grounding stage.

stylus replacement... about every three months with heavy
usage, every six with medium domestic use.

make sure you get someone who knows what they're doing to
help you with headshell/cartridge alignment, and tracking
weight.

hope that helps.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-17 11:30 [#01752538]
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this is meant to be good for what you want


 

offline pylonbitch from Samoa on 2005-10-17 11:37 [#01752544]
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it is... the project debut is about as god as yu'll get FOR
THE MONEY.

you could probably do better second hand.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-10-17 11:42 [#01752556]
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sl-1200/1210 mkII all the way
you really can't go wrong


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-17 11:53 [#01752573]
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if you're just listening I agree with pylon: rega or
project. the one sam linked should work just perfectly for
what you need.

make sure the cartridge you get matches the turntable,
though.


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-10-17 13:08 [#01752637]
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some good suggestions. this also made me realise that i
don't have an amp or decent speakers. headphones should do
okay for a start, right?

and yeah, i just want to listen :)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-17 13:13 [#01752644]
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you'll need good headphones, though...

my headphones cost half of what my speakers cost.. just ask
yourself if it's worth it buying headphones now and speakers
later...


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-10-17 13:18 [#01752651]
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i already have some crappy headphones.


 

offline pylonbitch from Samoa on 2005-10-17 17:25 [#01752946]
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please don't listen to combo.

yes the 1200/1210's are the club dj standard. yes they're
hardwearing, great for scratching, have direct drive quartz
driven motors, a super heavy platter etc etc.

but they don'tt do sound reproduction especially well.
subtlety isn't their strongpoint... and for a listening
deck, you could get ten times the quality of sound for the
same price.


 

offline pylonbitch from Samoa on 2005-10-17 17:26 [#01752947]
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oh yeah, and if you don't have an amp, headpphones aren't
going to be much bloody use now are they?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-10-17 17:27 [#01752949]
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best turntable for <=500USD?


 

offline pylonbitch from Samoa on 2005-10-17 17:30 [#01752952]
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again you're ptalking about 250 uk quidzoorz here...

advice above applies.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-10-17 17:32 [#01752955]
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depends on your cartdrige probably !


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-10-17 17:40 [#01752961]
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Cool, i was looking at Rega, hadn't heard of Project


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-10-17 17:42 [#01752967]
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Wah, why do all the really cool looking ones have to be
obscenely expensive?


 

offline pylonbitch from Samoa on 2005-10-17 18:42 [#01753031]
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depends on your ears combo dude.



 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-10-17 19:15 [#01753097]
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"just something cheap that can play
vinyls."

not Awesome DJ Deckz0r


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-10-17 19:19 [#01753104]
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you seem knowledgable, would you say an extra $200 (114gbp)
would be worth it for this difference?:

debut
Speed variance ±0,8 %
Wow and flutter ±0,12 %
Signal to noise -65dB

1 xpression
Speed variance ±0,5 %
Wow and flutter ±0,1 %
Signal to noise -70dB

The debut also comes with an Ortofon cart which seems
slightly better than the AT cart or is it not?


 

offline pylonbitch from Samoa on 2005-10-18 02:14 [#01753295]
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i've never heard the xpression, so i couldn't say.

that is a fairly minimal step up in specs for 114 quid
though...

i would suggest you have a listen to both... and also bear
in mind that the accoustic environment/sppeaker placement,
and even the resonance of the platform you put your deck on
will colour the sound more than a 0.02% difference in
flutter measurements.


 

offline pylonbitch from Samoa on 2005-10-18 04:29 [#01753339]
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and yes, ortofon carts are pretty good.


 


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