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(.mov file) Enjoy. |
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Contrary to popular belief, this composition is not meant to be silence. The "music" is the random background noise generated by the audience or cars outside of farting or coughing or whatever. So the reaction to the music IS the music. Like, deep. If somebody walked in off the street with a trombone and started playing "Yankee Doodle Dandy" would that be part of the piece or not? |
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"i don't hear anything!" |
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yes it would. |
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I've never heard it. |
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Thats the best part of it. Cage had a brilliant mind. Example during a book interview he noted how the interviewer chewed his food and complimented him on it. That is excellent attention to detail |
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what IS it with the people that go go classical concerts, that they always have to cough so excessively after a piece, and in this case even after what, 2 minutes of 'silence' ? |
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this video is excellent! genius. |
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lol i have noticed that too |
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I guess the being human part gets in the way there. |
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took you long enough. why do you always have to be such a cynical tit when i question something? everything is all oh so obvious for you isn't it? If somebody has to cough their lungs out after shutting up for a couple of minutes, i don't consider that natural human behaviour. Try harder because your sarcasm is getting old. |
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it's because they're all old and have emphysema. |
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they're not all old and i've noticed younger people cough as well. i say higher ticket prices for excessive coughers, and no more first rank seats. |
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4 * 60 + 33 = 273 [s] The absolute zero is around -273,15 centigrade. Deep. |
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well i guess one way to look at it is that in that setting with that number of people you are going to have to cough everynow and again. People do it all the time involuntarly all the time to the point where you dont notice it. But when you try to contain body functions for the sake of the preformance you tend to focus on it for the certain duration of time. Like when you have an itch of your nose but you strain not to itch it, it just gets worse until you finally give in. I think that its a similar thing here. ----------------------------- Overall i think this video was one of the best music related videos i have ever seen ever. I would have loved to have been there participating in this. The guy was correct... that tension was amazing! That was the longest bit of time i have ever focused on silence in a while. I loved where the conductor wiped his brow and gave everyone a chance to chuckle. That was a relief! This video will be moving to my personal archieves! |
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Also in my personal opinion some of those coughs were excessive for the sake of a joke. Because it was ok between the piece to make noise and it almost appeared as a small running joke. Like some of those people were just messing around. It brought a smile to my face non the less! |
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hihihihihihi hihihihihihjihihihihihihi hihiih |
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yes you have some good points there. I enjoyed watching this as well, but i would enjoy it more if people tried their absolute best to just try and virtually disappear by sheer concentration, instead of waiting for the cough break. |
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I see what you mean but i think the break is important as it sections off the performance which was made for aeperate parts. I like that destinction in between the parts. |
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I'd also recommend to have a look at the site from which the video was taken. A vast archive of music/video avant-garde, ethnopoetics, and outsider arts. Whatever that means. |
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not a followup |
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Thanks! I have seen this link before and thus i think i shall look around and check some stuff out! |
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This is the best quote i've read in a while "As the practices of sound art continue to evolve, categories become increasingly irrelevant, a fact UbuWeb embraces. Hence, our artists are listed alphabetically instead of categorically." |
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that IS the popular belief which you seemed to think wasn't the popular belief. |
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wow thanks for being so arrogant |
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maybe you should stick your head in a vacuum of air to hear what silence really sounds like. |
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No, people really do think that the silence is the music. Obviously on a messageboard were people are a little bit more musically "educated", this isn't the case. |
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I think that one must keep in mind a) why cage wrote the composition b) how cage thinks about music/sound I this this quite pertains to this all (imo) "Which is more musical: a truck passing by a factory or a truck passing by a music school?" |
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and the answer is: |
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That should read "i think that this quote" i should take time to reread what i type sometimes. lol anyways the answer is quite simple as there is no answer. Its all up to the person who hears the variations of sounds and how one percieves it. The distinction between noise, sound and music is made based on a variance of opinions. |
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great. : ) |
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i put it as background music while i read through some message boards. |
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the coughing was intense. |
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i dindt realise there was a video fo the performance i know theres a cd we listened to it in a level musc once :) cage <3 anyone have any steve reich videos? |
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underrated. and the video is great :) thanks you gvarek man ziom ! |
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heh, Reich videos ? i need to search for them :) |
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Pretentious wank. |
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aw come on! Admit that its a fun experiment with a crowd! and you cant use "Pretentious" on this or any IDM message boards because it has been overused and no longer has meaning! :P :D!! |
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OK it's just wank then. |
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why do you always have to whine about everything? "oooh those people are coughing!! OOH I HATE THEM!!" "oooh you didn't use lazy_link!! OOH I HATE YOU" etc. etc. haven't you ever noticed that you get wound up over the smallest things, in a Trent Reznor-y GRRRRR way? so please don't come to me and say I am too negative - I'm just giving back what you're sending out. |
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if he's trent reznor, which celebrity nitpicker do you resemble? |
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Ru Paul |
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wow, it's disturbing how well that shoe fits... |
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I'm agree with Jeroen on the fact that everything is all obvious for you somethimes. But I'm also agree with you because Jeroen used to whine about something you mentioned. |
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i think we've found a subject for wooferattack's next poll! |
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qrter haterz are cocks. Go fuck yourselves. |
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