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If you're bored, please do my survey about your elementary/secondary educational experiences if you have a moment...it's just a casual thing I'm doing for my English teacher. I haven't decided if I want to focus on punishments or the use of computers in the classroom yet; I guess I'll choose by whichever yields the more interesting results. You can be as specific as you have time to be. Age: ________________________ How many students were typically in your classroom? What types of behavior were considered misbehavior? What sorts of punishments were doled out for misbehaving? ________________________ Were there computers in your classroom? If so, what were they used for? Were they involved in the curriculum in any interesting/helpful ways? Did your teacher seem to have the training necessary to help you learn to use the technology? |
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Hi, mimi! |
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Is this sstuff that interests you? |
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22 max 20students in my classrooms (college/lectures) computers, yes everyone is assigned yapyops (laptops, but it's funner to call them yapyops) no, i find it completely distracting i cant even bring mine to class anymore .. because like everyone else, i just sit on aim and play games. no one actually does anything on them yes, all profs have good training, hope i helped |
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No i couldn't really give less of a fuck, these are my two options though. |
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elusive thanks for answering, i have to write about peoples' elementary/secondary schools though, not colleges.... |
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sorry, but.. at what point in my education do you want me to answer from? right now it's university... |
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oh, nevermind. |
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no, wait.. I don't know when "elementary/secondary" is... what age, approximately? |
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oh sorry, i mean before you go to a college or university. like up to 17 or 18 or maybe 19 years old. |
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any country? |
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yes, absolutely. i should have added that (which country did you receive this education in) to my survey. |
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all the way? ok.. Age: 21 ________________________ How many students were typically in your classroom? 20 or so? What types of behavior were considered misbehavior? by teachers: skipping class and talking during classes when we weren't supposed to discuss or work together and stuff... and then the obvious like violence and stuff, but that wasn't something that happened very often if at all. What sorts of punishments were doled out for misbehaving? the first years (7-13 or whatever that is), nothing much. just a talking to or a trip to the headmaster for a "more severe" talking to if you did something "heavy." then (13-..15-16?) : it was the talking to plus sometimes you got excluded from one period or if it was severe, the headmaster again and then possibly even exclusion from school. finally, (--->18), the same as before, but there was also a system of "marks" that could bar you from the exams if you hadn't attended enough classes. ________________________ Were there computers in your classroom? at first, no, but there was one in the room next door. then.. no last.. we had "economics" and "it" classes, but there weren't computers in other classes. If so, what were they used for? economics and it. Were they involved in the curriculum in any interesting/helpful ways? we surfed a lot on the internet and entered goatse on all the computers before we left the classroom. Did your teacher seem to have the training necessary to help you learn to use the technology? no |
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cool, excellent, thank you DM! |
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20 30 or less. Rarely more than 30. I'll say 24 average. Speaking when the teacher or other students were speaking/teaching. Detention. |
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thanks map. |
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i will answer from middle school to high school, since i already did it without checking first. this was when i was 12 or 13 through 18. i'm older than that now. How many students were typically in your classroom? around 20 What types of behavior were considered misbehavior? smoking crack, murder, being a foreign exchange student... failing that, it was surprisingly laid-back. What sorts of punishments were doled out for misbehaving? detention or, more commonly, a trip to the vice principal's office. there were some arrests, but that was rare. Were there computers in your classroom? not in the actual classrooms, but there were computers to use. If so, what were they used for? printing out the nirvana tablature book, visiting questionable websites for the purposes of "research", typing up reports due in the next class. Were they involved in the curriculum in any interesting/helpful ways? yes, absolutely. in some courses, the computers were very useful. i would have had a hard time learning html in my notebook. Did your teacher seem to have the training necessary to help you learn to use the technology? hahah... no. remember: this was way back when computers were still made out of hardened clay and they still called them "apples". lol. maybe there were some newer pc's as well, but no, the teachers largely didn't understand the evil magic behind them. they would usually just watch the screensaver and wonder why it wasn't giving them heat. |
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by notebook, i meant literally a bunch of ruled paper. not a computer. this was back in the days of analog notebooks. |
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OK, I'll dscribe two schools: elementary (7-15) and secondary/high (16-19). Now we have three stages of pre-uni education but I luckilly missed out on that. -------------- Elementary school (1989 - 1997): It was a small school in the far suburbs of a not so big city. Avarage number of students in class: twenty something, I think. Misbehaviour: cursing, smoking cigarettes behind The Shed, fighting on the football field, coming drunk to school (I think it happened a couple of times) Punishment: 1. a chat with your tutor 2. a chat with the very lenient headmaster often combined with coming with your parents the other day. In the fourth grade we had a very old music teacher who punished the kids by forcing them to kneel in the corner of the classroom on gravel. Nobody treated him seriously because it was sort of surreal. Also he was almost blind and it usually ended as sitting on the floor next to the piano. Later he had a stroke while showing modern dance in the techers' room. He's still alive and in his late 80s as far as I know. True story The only computer was in the headmaster's office. I think he liked tetris. ---------------- High School (1997 - 2000) Often more than 30. We had a demographic explosion then. Being rude to the teachers, failing exam after exam, singing about Jah in a reggae band (Paprika Korps). Use of drugs and alcohole. Activities in any leftist organisation were also very frowned upon by the headmaster (she was quite a climber). Wearing any ragged clothes or a mowhawk. The punishments were mostly the same as in the elementary school with the addition of a visit to the school educationalist. There was one expulsion and one persuaded departure. We had two computer classrooms. One was equipped with some antient 286s and the other with stelar Pentiums. They were used for teaching HTML, some algorythms in pseudo-compiler, Microsoft Office. However I remember playing Duke Nukem 3D quite a lot over the LAN. They weren't wasted. 2 out of 3 - yes |
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Age: 21 How many students were typically in your classroom? Between 20 - 28 What types of behavior were considered misbehavior? Talking when we were not supposed to be, bullying the teacher, being generally offensive and the like. What sorts of punishments were doled out for misbehaving? Detentions in which we had to write lines, remove gum from underneath the table or running around the playing field etc. Were there computers in your classroom? We had comuters in the library, the I.T. room and one of the music rooms. If so, what were they used for? The respective purposes really. Although you could go on the internet in the computers in the I.T room and the library. Were they involved in the curriculum in any interesting/helpful ways? Not really, although cubase was quite fun to abuse. Did your teacher seem to have the training necessary to help you learn to use the technology? Just about. |
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excellent, thanks all of you who've answered. QRDL: "with coming with your parents the other day." you had to take your parents to school with you if you were bad or am i misunderstanding!? wow! |
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im 26 class size 20-24 truancy, disrupting the class, failiure to do homework, vandalism and bullying were all punishable by detentions or brought up individual teacher-parent meetings. prefect detentions involved cleaning up the premises. severe misbehaviour such as drug use and theft was rewarded with expulsion. no computers in the class in my day. remaining questions are n/a |
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You had to bring them and lead them to the headmaster's office for a friendly chat, not sit with them in the classroom, HAHAHA. Did I misunderstand now? But this was reserved for cases like failing a course or notorious bisbehaviour towards teachers. There goals of this punishment were different in both schools. In the elemntary the level of teaching was good and many of farmers' kids couldn't keep up. The headmaster tried to talk the parents to helping their children to at least finish the elementary. In the second school the parent-headmaster talks used to end with threats of expulsion. It didn't actually help the athmosphere in families. |
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mimi; maybe one of your questions be 'where are you from?' - answers are going to differ hugely as you're asking a worldwide audience, which might make the survey results skewed? additionally, asking if they're from a city or country school? (i went to a bloody lot of schools when i was young - it varies quite a bit!) Age: 22 How many students were typically in your classroom? well, depends on the class. in primary (elementary) school, usually 20-30. during high school, the nerdier classes had anywhere from 2 people to 10 people, the more common ones usually 15-25. What types of behavior were considered misbehavior? usual stuff i guess; not doing homework/assigned work, generally acting disruptive/like a tool. depended on how chilled the teacher was. What sorts of punishments were doled out for misbehaving? typically detention; spend a lunchtime or recess or something sitting in a room doing class work, or nothing. three detentions or so, and you got a 'you've been naughty' letter sent back to your parents. it kind of didn't work if your parents thought the reason for being punished was amusing, though. Were there computers in your classroom? usually not, more in a central 'computer room'. a few schools i went to had a single computer in the classroom but people usually abused their privileges by surfing the wrong interweb sites, so they were hardly ever used. If so, what were they used for? incredibly boring, pointless, mundane shit. computers at the schools i was at was such a waste of time; i think the extent of what was done was the microsoft suite of applications (word, excel, powerpoint, etc), and perhaps a typing tutor or two. |
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Were they involved in the curriculum in any interesting/helpful ways? helpful, i guess, interesting ,no - wow, use the interweb to research stuff, and use a word processor to type up your documents - that was about it. that said (i run an it consultancy/solutions company now, ironcially dealing a lot with the education sector), a private school i look after are doing some very, very cool things, so i think this is changing - one teacher was showing me some clay animation stuff they were doing with primary (elementary) school kids the other day, and i've seen secondary/high school kids doing some reasonably involved midi/sound/video editing as part of their computer classes. about bloody time! Did your teacher seem to have the training necessary to help you learn to use the technology? *laughs* one or two teachers, out of the many i had over the years. most were clueless. don't get me started :-) |
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Boy am I bored... Age: 27 ________________________ How many students were typically in your classroom? 25 What types of behavior were considered misbehavior? Anything other than paying rapt attention to the teacher basically. What sorts of punishments were doled out for misbehaving? Detention, or in the case of my maths teacher, an offer of a fight. Were there computers in your classroom? Only in IT class really. If so, what were they used for? IT. Were they involved in the curriculum in any interesting/helpful ways? Well we could play Mickey's Magic Mixture on the BBCs, that was interesting. Could also do English essays on the PCs. Did your teacher seem to have the training necessary to help you learn to use the technology? Yep, and she could gam for Wales too. |
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Age: 23 ________________________ How many students were typically in your classroom? 20 What types of behavior were considered misbehavior? Swearing, playing games over the school network, hacking, fighting, drinking, smoking, boys going into the girls toilets/vice versa, graf, pornography, carrying weapons. What sorts of punishments were doled out for misbehaving? I got a letter home to my parents when I was caught down my local pub one lunchtime. I got 20 hours "community service" spread over a month's lunchtimes for selling "amphetamines" (actually cut chalk dust). Fortunately I knew the car taker through Judo and I just helped him fit a tap for an hour and he signed me off as having done 20 hours :D For minor misdemeanours, children were put on "trays" dinner hall duty which meant having to actually work in the canteen, like a dinner lady should have been employed to do. Interestingly there was always someone on tray, so the school were actually saving on labour costs. I didn't get an afterschool detention once, despite being a hell raiser in my school years. Plenty of lunchtime ones and tellings off, a few letters home, etc. Being a bright student and head of my house helped a lot. ________________________ Were there computers in your classroom? No, only in dedicated computer rooms. If so, what were they used for? Programming, Maths, Design Technology. Games and hacking ;-) Were they involved in the curriculum in any interesting/helpful ways? Not particularly- they were horrendously dated and locked down to such a degree that you couldn't really learn any IT skills on them. Likewise, we had an internet "white list" of sites that weren't blocked. Absolutely useless. Did your teacher seem to have the training necessary to help you learn to use the technology? No, the whole IT staff were incompetent and I can say without any hint of ego that I knew far more about computers than they did, by the time I was 15. |
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This was in Wales, UK. |
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Age: 18 ________________________ How many students were typically in your classroom? varied from 16 up to 26. What types of behavior were considered misbehavior? Everything from short hair to holding hands with the opposite sex (holding hands with the same sex isn't frowned upon; suspicious :S) What sorts of punishments were doled out for misbehaving? For short hair you are put in isolation (ie you come to school as if you were the only pupil and live in a room for the school day) until your hair grows back. Other punishments include being asked not to come back to school, suspension, detentions (three types), Homework tickets, having to report early the next day, report cards etc. (this list is endless, when I get home i'll scan our rule book all 43 pages of it, it's hilarious in some parts.) ________________________ Were there computers in your classroom? Yes If so, what were they used for? Research, Work..... :) games, naughty sites oh and XLT. Were they involved in the curriculum in any interesting/helpful ways? No Did your teacher seem to have the training necessary to help you learn to use the technology? No, when asked a question he always used to say (and this is our IT teacher by the way) "ask the help button". Sombody even asked him where the help button was and he answered..... well I let you work it out. |
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actually, the computers were in designated classrooms, but we had 5 classrooms dedicated to computers so in essence whenever we had free time we could use the computers. |
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Age: 23 1.) ~25 2.) Talking when the teacher was, non work related discussion, being disruptive. 3.) Detention. 4.) In some lessons. 5.) Well in Business studies to tell us how to use a spreadsheet. In IT to teach me to suck eggs. In French to play stupid noun games. 6.) Not for me they weren't. 7.) Yes but they had to teach the curriculum so could only answer my questions outside of lesson or whilst everyone else was doing the task set. |
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You guys are excellent, thanks. I know this is probably the world's least interesting survey to fill out... |
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Of course it was in Poland |
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