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offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-07 09:41 [#01743534]
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i listened to draft today and i still find most of it kinda
boring..them making an album like untilted, which is fcuking
fantastic must be the best change for better in the history
of music!


 

offline nacmat on 2005-10-07 09:42 [#01743539]
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I love thim both... but yes, I prefer untilted

though surripere is unbeatable


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-07 09:43 [#01743540]
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fanboi


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-07 09:43 [#01743541]
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first four minutes are nice.


 

offline penexpers from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-10-07 09:44 [#01743542]
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both are among the top 5 best albums made


 

offline penexpers from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-10-07 09:44 [#01743543]
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ever. by anyone.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-10-07 09:48 [#01743546]
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on the premise that draft has 6ier.cr, the conclusion must
be drawn that: draft > untitled

so you're wrong!



 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-07 09:54 [#01743550]
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I prefer untilted too, I didn't find draft boring tough, I
still love xylin room and iv vv iv vv viii. In these days
I'm listening to Lcc by untilted I really love it especially
after 3.20 minuts. Try it Goran.


 

offline nacmat on 2005-10-07 09:58 [#01743554]
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also draft got tapr


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-07 10:02 [#01743557]
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yep


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offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-10-07 10:05 [#01743558]
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i really can't stand either of them.


 

offline penexpers from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-10-07 10:08 [#01743559]
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i feel for you


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-07 10:08 [#01743560]
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I'd like Draft better if it had better mastering. There's
too much compression / limiting and it's exhausting to
listen to.

Plus it just sounds to me like they had better ideas or were
more inspired on Untilted. It's pretty subjective, I know.
Anyhoo it was a relief to me that I like Untilted a lot
more. Restores my faith in those nice ae boys.


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-07 10:09 [#01743563]
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yup


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offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-10-07 10:11 [#01743565]
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yup




"gabberitalia"... this pic is on-topic in so many ways.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-10-07 10:11 [#01743566]
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true


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-10-07 10:12 [#01743567]
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FUCK


 

offline penexpers from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-10-07 10:12 [#01743570]
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I really cannot understand the negative comments. If Draft
can get criticised, anything can. Wake up, this album is
absolute perfection. I could not think of a bad word to say
about it.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-07 10:12 [#01743571]
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oh they aint nice.they are bastards-they send people dead
cats in the post.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-10-07 10:14 [#01743574]
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I prefer Draft 7:30, more melodies and awesome sounds in it.
Maybe the constructions are not as good as those on Untilted
though.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-07 10:14 [#01743575]
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Draft annoys and tires me and is a lot of hard work for I
don't know what whereas Untilted is brutal, awkward and
demanding yet the payoff is fullsome.


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-07 10:15 [#01743580]
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V-Proc is great too


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-07 10:18 [#01743584]
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fleetmouse and dogbelch understand it!!!


 

offline furoi from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-10-07 10:19 [#01743585]
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draft for the life then
i poo on untilted then

confield above draft
so i poo on draft



 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-10-07 10:27 [#01743598]
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word


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2005-10-07 10:35 [#01743605]
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i'm still getting into untilted... but i don't believe the
two albums can be compared... they are simply completely
different in how each track is made and expose a different
emotion. at least for me anyway, draft is still sinking into
my head.

for instance on "surripere"... probably my most favorite on
the album... because it's so lush with all sorts of synths
and drum machine bleeps and boops... oh yeas ye how we rolly
polly

how does booth and brown do it? the ae of them has got em


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2005-10-07 10:50 [#01743621]
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I think the ae live show is the best i have heard apart from
squarepusher, they are completely different kettles of fish
though.


 

offline inkey from urgato (United States) on 2005-10-07 11:02 [#01743632]
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confield is my fav ae release me thinks..although i like all
of their stuff except for cavityjob..which is amusing like
prodigy's music for the jilted generation...which, don't get
me wrong, i like in the proper context... ha ha ha...you
people with you single taste in music...

but to topic, confield rules, draft rules, untilted rules,
amber rules..etc....

bolz bolz


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-07 11:06 [#01743633]
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thought both album sounded the same....

completely annoying after a couple of listens


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-10-07 11:07 [#01743636]
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draft is their finest album to date.

simple as that.



 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2005-10-07 11:26 [#01743664]
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i've not listened to either of them in weeks.

but i think i liked untitled better...


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-10-07 12:05 [#01743705]
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it depends on the day.

red or white wine?


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2005-10-07 12:06 [#01743707]
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untilted


 

offline Seracelsus on 2005-10-07 12:28 [#01743712]
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i think Draft has better synth sounds and atmospheres on it,
but the drum programming on it is more cerebral, whereas
the rhythms on Untilted seem to groove a lot more. but
Surripere and 6E.CR are amazingly strong tracks, so it's a
close call. i agree with those who said it depends on what
you're in the mood for.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-10-07 12:35 [#01743715]
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I prefer Draft by a longshot. More depth, I hear more
''things'' and movements. I think. It'll probably be 2006 by
the time I master listening to Untilted though, so this may
change.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-07 13:06 [#01743726]
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Come on mate, it's suubjective. :-)

I only enjoy moments of Draft, if I'm in the right frame of
mind. I find the production of Untilted a lot more pleasing
on the ears.


 

offline _gvarek_ from next to you (Poland) on 2005-10-07 13:39 [#01743758]
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What difference does it make really? It's great music, and
we should be thankful. Just press play and enjoy.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-10-07 14:38 [#01743806]
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WELL WELL WELL. I've just listened to Draft 7:30 again and I
realize that I like the beginning of each songs but after a
few minutes I sometimes find those songs boring. And now I'm
listening to Untilted and I'm slowly appreciating it a bit
more.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-10-07 15:26 [#01743846]
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For me Draft was a case of "technically we can beat the fuck
out of anyone" and untilted was "now we're going to beat the
fuck out of you". I much prefer untilted, it is a much more
raw album and I just feel it more than I do Draft which is a
bit, dare I say, artsy.


 

offline sirmailbox from chicago area (United States) on 2005-10-07 15:43 [#01743858]
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I definitely prefer Draft. Matter of fact I prefer most
Autechre over Untilted. I think it's just too inconsistent.
It has some GREAT moments, such as the second half of Trees
-- brilliant. But the first half.. that melody is just total
shit. I mean come on. Listen to that bullshit. And how long
does it go on with little or no change? Two full minutes or
something? Give me a break. I'm John Stossal.

Draft just seems crazier to me. Untilted is more
straightforward.. there are sections in Draft that are sort
of there for their own sake, and don't repeat -- like the
beginning of IV VI etc. I think of draft as this writhing,
mutating and exploding thing in not very expected ways.
Untilted is more like a repeating beat with slight changes
over time.


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2005-10-07 15:59 [#01743870]
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confield was great. sounds were quite unobvious

draft was good in a different way, had more natural bits,
drones, etc...bit more of a beat....more synthy sounds than
confield

untilted has groove. (baby) even recognisable samples. a lot
more bassey than the others

in conclusion:

confield>draft>untilted
^___________________/



 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-07 16:02 [#01743871]
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dave_g
dave_g
dave_g
dave_g
dave_g
dave_g
hell yeah


 

offline nacmat on 2005-10-07 16:14 [#01743884]
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hahahah you got it


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-10-07 16:20 [#01743889]
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i love them both for different reasons, cant compare at all

if i had to say which tho i'd say draft definitely. more
heady.


 

offline hanal from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-07 16:22 [#01743892]
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cygnus
cygnus
cygnus
cygnus
cygnus
hell yeah(tho i prefer untilted)


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-10-07 16:24 [#01743893]
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i like/love autechre


 

offline nacmat on 2005-10-07 16:26 [#01743894]
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gay!


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-10-07 16:27 [#01743896]
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PD


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-10-07 16:28 [#01743897]
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then why dont you marry them


 

offline nacmat on 2005-10-07 16:29 [#01743898]
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ont thing about autechre... for me its hard to choose a
favourite among their discography... as it is very solid,
with no weak releases... all coherent in a great evolution
of sound but keeping their soul intact all through their
career

one of the best bands ever


 


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