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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-29 02:56 [#01736530]
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are there any ? supatrigga is kinda neat but it's sometimes really difficult to control imho.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-29 05:57 [#01736627]
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there is...
devine machine
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-09-29 06:12 [#01736636]
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Supatrigga is supposed to be difficult to control, isn't it? Isn't that the point behind a randomizer?
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csl
on 2005-09-29 08:07 [#01736747]
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livecut glitch
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inkey
from urgato (United States) on 2005-09-29 08:22 [#01736768]
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isn't this just a tracker that uses loops instead of onehits?
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esaruoho
from helsinki (Finland) on 2005-09-29 08:23 [#01736769]
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beatrepeater on live5 maybe.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-29 08:36 [#01736777]
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well, its impossible to control it, because its a randomizer.
the best way to use this plugin, is to put it on your track, and record 2-5 mins of audio.
open up the audio, and cut it up, taking the pieces that sound good to you, and rearrange it, in a more structured, controlled way.
theres no such thing as a plugin that automatically gives you awesomeness... theres tools that help, but in the end, you still gotta put the effort in yourself.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-29 09:08 [#01736808]
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right - but in a live situation these small pieces of software give you much room to improvise at once!
there is a vst effect version of devine machine - lucifer. just digging it now as i speak - it rocks horribly !!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-29 09:09 [#01736809]
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thats not improvising... its randomizing. HUGE difference
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hma
from real life on 2005-09-29 09:40 [#01736821]
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instajungle
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-29 10:37 [#01736853]
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not really - i mean you cannot bind the several effects to every key on your keyboard and play everyone exactly like you want
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-29 10:42 [#01736856]
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whats the main program you are using to play live with?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-29 10:44 [#01736857]
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yeah magix drillcore maker...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-29 10:47 [#01736859]
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ableton at the mo
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-29 10:49 [#01736861]
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then you could cut up the audio from the supper trigger, and throw all the chunks onto a channel in live, and trigger various samples yeah? have a repeating loop of the original drums... and trigger the suppertrigga'd stuff manually.
no?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-29 10:52 [#01736864]
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of course i could...
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-09-29 11:00 [#01736874]
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i have 4 effects at once, funnily all freeware except ohms delay.
i route livecut first, then supatrigger, then some amazing freeware modulator, then ohm delay. and when ever i do some crazy effects i just resample it then use that as my main beat. Sometime i put another livecut after the dealy so i can fuck around with the delay as well. sounds very cool.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-29 11:15 [#01736888]
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sounds neat
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-09-29 12:38 [#01736950]
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the best thing is live just turns on and off your vst's, which i assign to keys on my keyboard. theres no slight delay like when you put the same effect within a cubase channel.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-29 12:51 [#01736961]
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exactly what i want to do. but in ableton you just have like on/off buttons. that would be a cool feature.
hm - lucifer does it for me... but i cannot find a cracked version anywhere... jesus.
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Nameless
on 2005-09-29 16:03 [#01737232]
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Fast FX in electronic instruments add on for reaktor
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-29 16:34 [#01737274]
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try that one out.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-09-29 17:30 [#01737317]
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Chain Suppa Trigga to your reverb or deelay effect for a neat subtle stuttering ambience. i did that in my 'smoking blind' track which caused much brew ha ha amongst my 'fans'
use the instant on off switches live to get instant repeating, reversing etc... manipulate it with your knob so people can see you are doing something. I saw a guy win a laptop battle doing this and which was pretty much his favorite trick.
i bet you are all excited about these groundbreaking new ideas, especially the bit about using your knob on stage.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-09-29 20:08 [#01737367]
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tweak tweak. arcdev still makes the best effects and fun random synths. nothing will beat mainliner.
Lots of GRm comb filters please. if not the fuck you :D hhahahasddg yeah actually just fuck you.
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mestizo
from madriz on 2005-09-29 21:01 [#01737382]
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LAZY_TITLE
Instajungle .... inspired by the supatrigga buut with more control possibities .... chek it ..
safe.
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Mum_Ra
from LOL (United States) on 2005-09-29 22:50 [#01737397]
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mmm... apparently theres vst called glitch which turns you into a s uperstar....
poop
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2005-09-29 23:41 [#01737418]
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I've used this one for beats R-mix and this one for drones, ambient sounds, etc. Polyfractus
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2005-09-29 23:48 [#01737420]
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It is true though that it is good to get huge performance takes with as many variations as possible. Different fx combinations, routing combinations, resample then resample again etc. Then take that and edit it down to the best stuff and arrange it ;)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-09-30 02:35 [#01737464]
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As zeus said, randomization is not improvisation. You are doing improvised producing, but the musical elements are out of your hands. Why don't you just work with a live musician?
Good musicians are always looking for seasoned producers to work with.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-30 03:14 [#01737505]
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come on guys... why all the fuzz ? i mean i just want to squeeze a bit more out of my dnb live set in an easy but controlable way
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-30 03:15 [#01737508]
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a pity that i cannot find the lucifer vst full version or crack or anything ... fuck - it's the best one yet from the posted ones
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-30 03:18 [#01737511]
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the lucifer thing has one part that nothing else has - this "incarn" mode. i mean you can actually completely restructure the loop on the fly. massive
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-30 03:35 [#01737530]
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fuckin shite... why has every of this plugins sliders instead of knobs ?? that would be so helpful...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-30 03:38 [#01737533]
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no i have to learn synthedit or anything just to change that.... what a fuck
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-09-30 03:39 [#01737534]
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yer glitch is an awsome plugin
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-09-30 05:09 [#01737611]
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there is a program written by DFX call rearrange. Its not hosted anywhere on their site, even in the museum for some reason, but I have used it before, and know it exists.
Its a m-a-s-s-i-v-e processor hog. But its functional. If I can find it in my archives I will get it to you.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-09-30 05:17 [#01737614]
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cool thanks
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