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Documentarry dirrected by Martin Scorsese, that's on tonight... anyone watching it... It looks rreally good. |
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too bad i don't have your tv stations. wouldn't mind watching it. |
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I am going to watch it. Yes. |
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I listened to the Ghosts of Electricity docu on the radio yesterday which was pretty interesting... about the "infamous" 1966 Manchester Free Trade Hall gig and the heckler. I'm taping No Direction Home and I'll watch both parts together. |
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Watched a good bit of it, yeah. |
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it's on pbs. |
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oh really? well then let's see if the tv is free. |
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err, umm, at least i *think* it is. it might've been a week ago. i just remember seeing ads for it. |
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yep, it's on pbs right now. |
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this sounds like an American sitcom. "That Bob Dylan!" |
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You can buy the documentary in stores since a week. It has extensive footage not on PBS. |
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"hey.. someone's been writing strange poetry all over the toiletpaper.." "ooooh.. That Bob Dylan!!" |
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I know a huge Dylan fan who watched Don't Look Back and saw a Dylan that was so loathesome and douchey that he actually started enjoying the music less. I'm stupid for things like that too, so I dunno if I want to see this... |
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Dylan in DLB isn't for me Loathesome. He's an act to start with, we have to remember. He's Robert Zimmerman deep inside him. He had to portray himself that way in 1965, he had no choice. It's obvious he was ahead of everybody else, how could anybody else cope with that, when you know you're doing stuff nobody has done before? I mean in DLB, how can you just sing to Donovan without looking like that, when he's singing "Its All Over Now, Baby Blue" in the hotel? He fucking destroys the room, he was just *way* ahead of everybody else, you can sense it, you can feel it also when he's playing in those concert halls that he just wants to rip those songs and pass out to the through stuff (the Thin Wild Mercury sound of Blonde on Blonde/H61 Revisited) |
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I really enjoyed this doc tonight. |
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Alan Price seemed like a fun laid back cat. I'd'a hung hung out with him, too. He'd did seem kinda mean in DLb. He was totally ignoring baez who is a phenomenal talent, btw. It didn't ruin my perception of him, though. Anyone in that position with that much talent and attention could turn in to an a'hole for a spell. He was remarkable at dealing with the media and interviews. Especially in that time. |
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good god. pardon my grammar |
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Excellent doc, looking forward to part 2. I've never liked Dylan's music, mostly cause I had it forced on me by my mother - I thought he was sloppy and out of tune. When the doc started up with the UK tour I thought it was almost unlistenable, by the time it had finished I was digging it to fuck (smoking a bowl probably helped). Excellent storytelling by Scorcese. *Goes off to download Muddy Waters* |
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I didn't think Dylan came off as loathesome at all. Definately socially detached, but not what I'd call loathesome. I mean, they didn't give a whole lot of personal background... he didn't talk a lot about his friends or family. He came off as very focused on futhering his musical career, but really that's ok for me. It wasn't like he was going out of his way to be an asshole or anything. It did kinda strike me as odd that he was distancing himself from the political nature of his songwriting though. I mean, so many of his songs are hard hitting and poingnant that it's hard for me to believe that he didn't purposefully make them that way. |
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I wonder how you guys are going to feel about him after Part Deux. 'Cause he goes into a whole transformation, I mean an incredible transformation thinking it was 1964 to 1966. I mean the Beatles were still playing live... Psychadelic was barely there. I mean we have to understand the context. Think of music back then, compared to now. What you had on the radio was... either classical, blues/jazz, country, folk, r&b and rock&roll. Vinyls. No TV. People not whistling or going "whooooo!" at live shows. Hair cut over the ears. and then you had Dylan. |
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"It did kinda strike me as odd that he was distancing himself from the political nature of his songwriting though.." I think he was smart enough to realise if he wasted time explaining it all away it would kill something of the art. I also think he is in the majority of artists who rather not do that for just that reason and more. |
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his voice is easily as good as, say, liam gallaghers or even shane mcgowans |
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i kinda feel like i know less about dylan after watching that. |
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lol |
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He's always been in a "constant state of becoming". Still is, with the Never-Ending Tour. |
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yeah, actually i thought he was being quite douchey when he was talking to that dude from Time (or whatever the magazine was). |
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