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magicant
from Canada on 2005-09-18 13:30 [#01726786]
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an EP or anything like that? i'm getting ancy.
and where can i find more information about the Hangable Auto Bulb CD? can we preorder from Warp yet??
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 13:31 [#01726788]
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I'd be really happy with a live album of theirs. When I saw them at SE1 and at the rave yesterday, they blew all their album material out of the water.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-18 13:32 [#01726789]
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Hangable Auto Bulb CD Preorder
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-09-18 13:37 [#01726791]
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if the stuff theyve been playing live is what some future material is going to sound like, then, HOLY SHIT.....
CS2x do you think anyone recorded the material played yesterday?? what variations could you notice between it and what was played months ago?
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-18 13:38 [#01726792]
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I would like a new EP by them...
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 13:39 [#01726793]
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i want autechre flavoured tea
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uzim
on 2005-09-18 13:40 [#01726794]
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hey, be patient, Untilted just got released a few months ago!!
they're not Merzbow or Venetian Snares you know..
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-09-18 13:42 [#01726795]
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tri repetae pizza
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-18 13:43 [#01726798]
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I love your av
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 13:43 [#01726799]
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booth bacon
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 13:45 [#01726801]
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thank you,that 12 was a gift from the great giginger and its awesome
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-09-18 13:45 [#01726802]
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http://www.discogs.com/release/485665
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 13:46 [#01726803]
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It was fairly similar to the SE1 club set, in terms of the general structure and that WICKED build up at the end. ;-) A lot of it was based on the first track's three-hit triplet thing, although live it sounded a lot more impressive.
Even if the structure and overall sound was similar, there was a lot of variation between this gig and the last. I can't remember many specific differences, as I just couldn't get over the complexity and pure energy that was in the tunes this time; though the middle section droned on a bit, the huge climax made up for that, and it was even more impressive then the climax at the SE1 club (they introduced a weird super loud throbbing bassline and the beats were completely different, though both had these weird industrial clagining noises and wailing synths.)
Both sets began in a similar, minimal beat-driven way, and had these brilliant sub-bass sounds running all the way through, but I reckon this set had more melodic elements and I heard more of Untilted throughout (though it was very mashed up and you could hear that they were imrpovising a lot with the source material.)
Sorry for the long post, I just found it a really inspiring gig overall. :-)
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-09-18 13:51 [#01726804]
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fucking awesome. i seriously honestly hope someone has a goood recording of it. most variations i notice between the already existing sets is with the, like you said WICKED ass build up at the end. and in the beginning - certain pieces of beats played later are cut in. that shit is so fat i could shove my tongue up my own nose
"booth bacon"
hahhahahahahaha
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-18 13:51 [#01726805]
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eheh the great giginger instead sent me this...
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-18 13:52 [#01726806]
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.......and this
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 13:55 [#01726807]
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haha,cool
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uviol
from United States on 2005-09-18 13:59 [#01726811]
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Uzim's kinda right.. you might not want to get your hopes up. In the broad scheme of Autechre releases we're still in the direct aftermath of Untilted. That was two years after Draft 7.30, which was two years after Confield (here my memory starts getting hazy on exact dates..). If the pattern holds then it's gonna be a while. As far as an EP goes, that might be a possibility, but I like CS2x's idea of a live album. That's one thing they haven't officially done yet, and I think it could work. The Glasgow soundboard is ace, and I loved their Austin show.
Anyway, just be glad you don't feel this way about Boards of Canada. Because after Campfire Headphase you might as well hang yourself.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 14:04 [#01726815]
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Is Campfire Headphase really that bad? I only heard one or two tracks, and they were "ok" I guess, but nothing more. :-S
Ah well, I just got back into Untiled lately anyway as a result of the two amazing Ae gigs I attended, so that'll keep me busy. They really made the DJ sound flat afterwards, even when he was playing pretty good techno. That wasn't his fault-it was just that Ae was intense.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-09-18 14:10 [#01726819]
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ah uviol i was at the austin show aswell. errm.. nice seeing you i guess. (as much as i can say that i saw you)
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-18 14:22 [#01726823]
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I have my suspicions that Untilted was written *after* they developed the live set that has so thoroughly rocked our skullls.
I can see them both coming to the realization that they were sitting ontop of something truly remarkable, but didnt know how to release it in album form, let alone just go out on tour with it, without said album to contextualize what they were doing in these sets. Hence Untilted came after they got this live set up formalized (maybe).
Anyhows, its just a theory given what was said on Warp about the album prior to its release, and subsequently taken down once the fakes started surfacing.
In any case, I think releasing a live album would be a bit of a Pearl Jam move, but could in fact set precendent given the expectation that most people are just pressing "play" in contemporary electronic music performances. Though, I would much rather have a new EP or maybe another DVD project. I know this shit takes a long time to write, but I have my guesses that they are sitting on a surplus of unreleased tracks...
For example, I would love to hear a finished track with that dope ass classic AE melody that comes in around 30 min into the glasgow recording.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 14:29 [#01726829]
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That could well be true. Whatever the case, the style of the album and the way their live stuff sounds is related, and I can see that Untilted branched off from the idea of a "live" feel.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-09-18 14:34 [#01726832]
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Oh do shut up. You're talking out of your ass. Their live sets are obviously a treatment of the album, not vice versa.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-18 14:52 [#01726844]
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Mappa-
Sounds like you are having a great day. That is wonderful! How is everything else in your cheery life?
kisses,
gl0tch
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 14:56 [#01726847]
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just listening to their live set at glasgow. thaks parhelic triangle!
Wicked stuff. To think I used to completely hate their music.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-09-18 14:59 [#01726852]
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Confabulation Syndrome Their brains produce fast and loose hypotheses but, crucially, fail to check them for accuracy. Instead, confabulators experience a "pathological certainty" that whatever springs to mind is simply true, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Their inability to cross-check their beliefs blocks them from acknowledging how deeply flawed their claims are; accordingly, they can't perceive or even conceive their own deficits.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-18 15:06 [#01726856]
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What part of "I have my suspicions," "maybe," "a guess," and "it's just a theory," did you not understand?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-18 15:07 [#01726858]
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oh, how funny it would be if you were the one wrong. You too cant validate your own claims, so your point is null
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 15:12 [#01726863]
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He's asserting his Will to Power over you. ;-)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 15:15 [#01726866]
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I think we're missing the important thing here.
People want new Autechre yet the collaboration with the Hafler Trio, whilst limited, doesn't sell out quickly. Consider yourselves fools for passing up awesome music.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-18 15:17 [#01726868]
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hahahaha
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uviol
from United States on 2005-09-18 15:22 [#01726873]
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CS2x: oops, sorry.. I must have not made my joke clearly enough. I have not heard a single track from Campfire Headphase yet, I'm trying to force myself to wait til October. I really have no idea if it's good or not! I was commenting on the fact that they take sooooo long to release anything, seeing how Geogaddi was 2002. I was trying to draw a contrast between their release habits and that of Autechre's (which are short by comparison). sorry for the mixup!
cygnus: Ah, yes I wish I would have known you were there! I would have bought you a drink or something. Did you have a good spot? I was with a few friends pretty close to the front, and it sounded great.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 15:25 [#01726877]
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Heheh, my bad.
Yeah, they take their time, don't they? I mean, it's beautiful music but I can't see why it takes them so long to create it. Perhaps I'm just ignorant regarding the work that goes into their stuff.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-09-18 15:27 [#01726880]
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:)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 15:32 [#01726885]
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I'm actually glad they take their time. They don't take too long but they keep you in anticipation of new stuff. With snares, there's so many releases it's quite hard to keep up and also enjoy each one or listen to it properly. Autechre; you get a good chance to listen to the album and form a good view of it.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 15:35 [#01726888]
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I agree; I like the anticipation and the lengths between Autechre albums in comparison to the likes of VSnares (although I enjoy some of his stuff.)
But BoC is a different matter imho. Of course, it does help their sense of mystery and all that...but still.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-09-18 15:42 [#01726896]
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It's true. It's bester than both.
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nacmat
on 2005-09-18 16:31 [#01726925]
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is that collaboration really good?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-09-18 16:32 [#01726926]
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I love it. Wonderfully done. Worth every penny.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-18 16:33 [#01726928]
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hahaha, its def. not the autechre you've come to love... but good nonetheless.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-09-18 16:34 [#01726929]
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i think most people make the mistake of listening to the ae3o/h3ae stuff as background music, and not really as a performance, and sorta end up thinking "man this is bothering me"
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-18 16:34 [#01726930]
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OMFGROTFLBBQ- Mappatazee and I agree on something.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 16:35 [#01726931]
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As mapp said, they're both fantastic.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-09-18 16:39 [#01726934]
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It's easy to do so. When I got it I fucking got stoned put on headphones and layed down. It's subtle, detailed, textured and a bit quiet in parts. I couldn't stand listening on my laptop though since the soundcard is so shitty I couldn't help but hear all the little chirps and bleeps it picks up from thecomputer's innards; really distracting.
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nacmat
on 2005-09-18 16:40 [#01726937]
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too expensive anyway
are they both on sale still?...or out of print already?
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uviol
from United States on 2005-09-18 16:45 [#01726949]
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Both still in print as far as I know. this is the first one although I think the hafler trio has since condemned phonometrography for bad business practices or some picky bullshit like that. The second one is on another label and I don't have it yet.. the first one's pricetag (which used to be 20 pounds) set me back for a while..
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 16:45 [#01726951]
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The first one is sold out I think. Not sure about the second. It's been out a while.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-18 16:47 [#01726953]
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Well I stand corrected :)
I though there was only one run of the first one and that it was limited? Maybe I'm confusing things here.
The label was apparently taking a majority of the money or something and not giving Hafler their fair share or something. I'll have to search to get the details again.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-09-18 16:48 [#01726954]
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I think it's more likely that there will be a Gescom release soon than an Autechre release.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-18 16:51 [#01726958]
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Guys dont forget the packaging of the collab is worth it alone!!!
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