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staz
on 2005-09-16 07:07 [#01724893]
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The trailer is shitty because it doesn't show off any games.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-16 07:10 [#01724895]
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Fuck, the only time I exert that amount of arm wiggling energy is when I have a wank. PASS!
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-16 07:11 [#01724896]
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It is the first calm down..... :)
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Superdude
from Iceland on 2005-09-16 07:15 [#01724902]
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The first time I saw it, I was shocked ! Nintendo is da BOMB They really have the guts to do this risky thing. I´m glad they did. I hope they will have alot adult games instead of mario party part 234
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-16 07:18 [#01724908]
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Until I touch it Im not passing proper judgement.
Anyway, that's enough about epohs' cock.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-16 07:23 [#01724913]
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*giggles*
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-16 07:23 [#01724914]
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don't get your hopes up.
:^(
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-09-16 07:34 [#01724925]
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"we'll be playing traditional games with this in familiar ways"
I truly hope you're wrong about this. The diffrence in processing power between revolution and the other systems already makes portability a pain in the ass. This controller design is just the nail in the coffin. I suppose you could use the controller for a fighter or FPS but I can't imagine how exactly.
You are right about game design. Time for something else besides Zelda and Mario.
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staz
on 2005-09-16 07:37 [#01724927]
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Haha, "portability".
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pigster
from melbs on 2005-09-16 08:08 [#01724938]
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i imagine myself playing a nes or snes (or gamecube, ps2, xbox whatever) while like lazing around on my couch.
and then i picture me leaning back feat on table (in the kinda position where my feet are in the way!) and i just cant picture me waving that thing around!
it is pretty revolutionary (not if its a complete failure though, like, who here thinks the virtual boy was revolutionary :D ) but yeah, it is revolutionay, but i think im just too old school for this shit. (or lazy, im not sure)
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staz
on 2005-09-16 08:11 [#01724942]
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Chill out, you haven't even laid your hands on it yet.
Supposedly it's very sensitive, so you won't have to wave it around like a lunatic.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-09-16 08:22 [#01724944]
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Hey! Leave my engrish alone
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2005-09-16 08:30 [#01724945]
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WOW....WOW!! I'm soo getting that.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2005-09-16 08:33 [#01724948]
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"I'm disappointed with Nintendo, it looks like I'll be getting a PS3 instead."
Better save up then. With a fancy schmancy blu-ray drive and HDTV support it's going to cost MEGA bucks. The blu-ray drive alone is said to make up over $100 over the cost price. So either this will be compensated by selling a $500 console or they'll sell it for less than the cost price and make the games $80 or so each. No PS3 here in both scenarios.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-16 08:39 [#01724953]
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freedom restriction
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-09-16 09:01 [#01724972]
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I'm not against the idea of branching out into new controller designs, but for christ's sake I wish they'd give us stubborn old schoolers a regular controller to use while everyone else is flailing like a fish trying to play with a glorified TV-remote control. It just seems kind of gimmicky to me. Who knows though, maybe it'll be really fun to use.
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staz
on 2005-09-16 09:17 [#01724978]
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You can plug in the fucking Gamecube controller.
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uzim
on 2005-09-16 09:39 [#01724985]
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i hope you can use regular GC controllers yes. but will every game work with it? not sure...
by the way if it's very sensitive it might be a bit annoying - just imagine: you've got flu. when you cough, you can't help but shiver a little... so you'll play bad because you can't aim well. o_O
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staz
on 2005-09-16 10:25 [#01725004]
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I'm betting you can adjust the sens :)
Also, of course not every game will work with the GC controller! This console is moving in a very special direction, so it's bound to use the new controller!
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2005-09-16 10:29 [#01725006]
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Very weird...I think they should just stick w/ the gamecube controller which is perfection except for that damn Z button.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-09-16 10:36 [#01725010]
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BTW Who are the hand models for these controllers? Looks like a fucking alien hybrid.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-16 10:45 [#01725015]
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The more I think about this, the less I like it. Also, they're introducing some sort of adapter to play games more traditionally. Another reason why I think we'll be playing traditional games in familiar ways. This isn't going to change gaming, it's just going to slightly alter the way we control our characters. Which I think isn't a big thing, personally.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-16 10:49 [#01725018]
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Do you work for nintendo? You come across as overly defensive in this thread. Look at the crap that nintendo gets away with. Its amazing they are still going.
They games they put out are a large percentage of crap. Sure they have a few gems but thats it. There is this weird cult of old timers that just wont let go. Nintendo is cursed. Look at this god awful controller.
"zomg use gamecube"
No. You shouldnt have to use dated hardware to properly enjoy gaming. Nintendo is dropping the ball on this one and instead of admitting it you are sitting in your house waiting for katrina to take a shit on New Orleans. Well we all know what happened to those people.
Moving along the only thing bad about PS3 is the initial price tag. End of story. Xbox360 gets a much needed head start.
Shit i dont even play video games and i can point this out. To make a proper decision people need to drop the "fanboy" crap and take a long hard at what is happening here.
The fact that you need to say "you can use gamecube controllers" and "download old nintendo games" shows that too much rely on its past and that its future looks bleak. I havent heard anything remotely like that with the other two systems. Nintendo sales overall when compaired to sony and xbox should show the future that nintendo has. Another flawed beginning would seriously hurt them as a company.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-16 11:02 [#01725034]
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Moving along the only thing bad about PS3 is the initial price tag. End of story.
Sony delivers more and better games, and now they're delivering the best hardware. I guess you get what you pay for.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-16 11:06 [#01725036]
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I would have no quams paying the inital amount. i know i would get what i pay for (as you noted) and i know it would have some serious kick arse games.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2005-09-16 11:11 [#01725040]
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Actually Nintendo has had relatively better sales than Sony and Microsoft. That's because both have sold their machines below cost price, expecting the games sales to compensate for that. Sadly they weren't smart enough to come up with a decent measure against game piracy and everyone modded their console to play copied games. Needless to say that is the reason why both got so popular, at the cost of their turnover.
Just some trivia for ya :)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-09-16 11:12 [#01725043]
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I don't think I'll be able to afford PS3 initially, but I'm not buying any next gen systems until I can afford a PS3.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-09-16 11:12 [#01725044]
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Large percentage is crap? I admit that their Mascots are tired but that's it. Their production values, gameplay control and overall presentation is still top notch for almost all of their in house titles. I'm hoping Nintendo makes due on their promise to provide original games you can't play anywhere else. I'm also hoping that third parties will treat Revolution as an entirely diffrent market and provide original content, not rehashed ports. I don't want to play fucking traditional titles on this system. That's what the other two are for. There's no point in limiting your gaming experience to one system if you've got the ends to get both. However, if you're just a broke ass sucker I'd start saving for PS3 and pretend Revolution and 360 don't exist.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-09-16 11:14 [#01725046]
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Large percentage is crap? I admit that their Mascots are tired but that's it. Their production values, gameplay control and overall presentation is still top notch for almost all of their in house titles. I'm hoping Nintendo makes due on their promise to provide original games you can't play anywhere else. I'm also hoping that third parties will treat Revolution as an entirely diffrent market and provide original content, not rehashed ports. I don't want to play fucking traditional titles on this system. That's what the other two are for. There's no point in limiting your gaming experience to one system if you've got the ends to get both. However, if you're just a broke ass sucker I'd start saving for PS3 and pretend Revolution and 360 don't exist.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-09-16 11:20 [#01725049]
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Sony delivers a tiny amount of First and Second party software and a shitload of third party titles. The quality is a result of the law of large numbers actually :)
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2005-09-16 11:20 [#01725050]
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Hahaha!
Fav+
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staz
on 2005-09-16 11:26 [#01725054]
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Not a fanboy, but I think the Revolution design is getting undeserved amounts of shit from people who haven't even given it a chance yet (tried it). Not that I have either, but it's kinda pointless to slag it off without even having tried it out or at least seeing the fucking games. I prefer the Xbox this generation to the Gamecube which quite frankly sucks cocks with the exception of having a few nice exclusives. And the Gamecube controller isn't really dated, because it basically looks like any nextgen controller (with the exception of the Revolution's, of course), although it's sad that you have to buy an old controller to exploit some facets of the hardware. I'm buying an Xbox360 this christmas and possibly even a PS3 if it's somewhat reasonably priced and gets more interesting exclusives (Katamari Damacy!), but I still want the Revolution to succeed, because to me it provides something others can't offer and it takes risks without going totally mental in that Virtual Boy kind of way. I quite enjoy the Nintendo DS' take on gaming after a lot of initial skepsis, so I figure I'll give the Revolution a chance as well.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-09-16 11:28 [#01725056]
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it may be cool but it looks ridiculous
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-16 11:34 [#01725066]
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I'll agree with you there. i would like to see nintendo succeed. They started this IMO. I mean sure you had atari but there was just something about the NES. There still is.
Nintendo has potential but they need to stop fucking around with this gimmick crap and start being more original like that one game they have out.... (eternal darkness? that was cool)
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But seriously..... GTA4 on ps3? We might as well buy sextoys and start fucking ourselves unless howser fucks up (wont). Halo 3 has got me interested aswell as this new metalgear. I hope my brother buys one.
I dont buy systems. Not enough time but i do like to jam on some games every now and again.
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eXXailon: Oh really? Hmmm. Surprising note. Thanks for that!
:)
*backspins*
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-16 11:37 [#01725071]
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Did you played/seen eternal darkness sanity's requiem?
That is a super game. I loved it.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-09-16 11:37 [#01725072]
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I reckon its the best looking of all the next gens..
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-16 11:43 [#01725091]
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I disagree... but you knew that ;-)
Killzone Ratchet and Clank Gran Turismo Sly Cooper Jak God of War ICO/Colossus
All THREE (!) of their platformer series' (which adds up to like 12-13 AAA platformers) are better than Mario Sunshine, and Wanda should be at least a match for modern-day predictable Zelda. God of War is about as good as either Metroid Prime. Nintendo has nothing of Gran Turismo's quality, and Geist is their only FPS, and that's clearly not at Killzone 2's level. Add in stuff like Socom, Siren, Dark Cloud, Twisted Metal, Wild Arms, Syphon Filter, and that more than compares to Nintendo's. It also targets more demographics.
And you can't just disregard third party, I mean, that's what wins these wars. Whoever makes better business decisions wins, and then the people that buy their system wins.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-16 11:46 [#01725095]
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Not a fanboy, but I think the Revolution design is getting
undeserved amounts of shit from people who haven't even given it a chance yet (tried it).
I agree. I think I'm missing the point and not being imaginative enough. I think the new controller is going to interesting even though I can't really fathom it right.
I'm worried about Nintendo, but it has nothing to do with their controller.
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staz
on 2005-09-16 11:51 [#01725100]
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My biggest worry is that all the games may be too gimmicky/weird for their own good. But like I said myself, they haven't really shown us anything yet, so. We're left to guessing again.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-16 11:53 [#01725103]
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Yeah same here. Like that donkey kong drumming one.
I thought "yeah good one. why not market to the kids that are young adults and grew up in the 80's playing the NES dipshits"
Not enough adult oriented games
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staz
on 2005-09-16 11:53 [#01725104]
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By the way, Killzone 2 was not rendered in realtime. It ran at 4 fps on PS3 alpha kits.
I'm sure they'll be able to make something akin to Killzone 2's graphics when they learn the PS3's hardware in and out, but I figure it's gonna take quite a while. Possibly a whole new generation until it happens. Multithreaded code :\
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-16 11:57 [#01725110]
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Have you seen Killzone for PS2? It's a pretty remarkable technical and artistic achievement considering what hardware it was running on. Regardless of whether or not the E3 Killzone video was legit, Guerilla are very talented, they'll put out something good and it will LOOK good, too. The only thing that held Killzone 1 back was the weakass PS2 hardware.
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staz
on 2005-09-16 12:05 [#01725121]
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It looks absolutely stunning for being a PS2 game, granted, although the gameplay was very "been there, done that". I'm hoping we'll see shit like Killzone 2 soon, because that's what I thought the next generation would really look like. Instead I'm sort of disappointed at the graphics I'm seeing for the upcoming games, excluding a few like Oblivion, Gears of War and Call of Duty 2 (because of the ridiculously hot animation). Actually, what I'm more excited about for the coming generation is the AI. I'm hearing promising stuff about a few upcoming titles, and CoD2 is supposed to dedicate an entire Xbox360 core to its AI. Christ.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-09-16 12:10 [#01725128]
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Yet those terrific in house and 2nd party titles are still a tiny fraction in comparison with their overall library. As far as Nindendo/Sony game comparisons, that might be a matter of taste. I have no interest in Jak, Sly, and Rachet series and God of War is really incomparable to Metroid. In the end, though, I can afford to own both systems now and in the future so I will simply enjoy the games exclusive to both. I really don't think that one company is superior to another.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2005-09-16 12:13 [#01725132]
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Can you imagaine what Shadows of Colossus would look like on PS3?! I just got the PS2 demo and despite the apparent hardware limitations it's breathtaking. I would hope more titles like that will find their way to Revolution.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-16 12:19 [#01725139]
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I can't wait for Oblivion.
The AI thing is interesting, but I guess I'm kind of shallow... what I want most are better-looking, more immersive environments and game universes. And better storyteling. I don't really play games for challenge anymore, I do it for the art... I want to hear the music and see the sights and experience the story. I don't try to break records or earn cheats or refine my skills. That's just how I am. *shrug
I suppose the AI thing will help with the immersiveness though, so that can only be a good thing. And of course I'm not JUST in it for the art... but that's what I'm most looking forward to. That and the super high resolutions.
Mertens- very true, taste plays into it. You might not have interest in the platformers, but a looooooottt of people do, those games are brilliant. I don't have interest in Animal Crossing or Pikmin, but I have to admit, those are two of Nintendo's triumphs this gen.
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vacant
from NYC (United States) on 2005-09-16 12:47 [#01725175]
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that's funny how people are yelling at the revolution for being compatible with the GC controller... and it's funny because... PLAYSTATION. that's all i will say, you draw the fuckng dots
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uzim
on 2005-09-16 12:56 [#01725184]
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weeee
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Seracelsus
on 2005-09-16 13:01 [#01725195]
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hahahahahah, that's the most fun i've had all day!
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-09-16 13:08 [#01725202]
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man what kind of game is gonna require you to pound your controller on the table
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