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         |  pigster
             from melbs on 2005-09-12 02:26 [#01720907] Points: 4480 Status: Lurker
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 | ive heard abit of other stuff, but nothing has been as awesome as drukqs. who here doesnt think drukqs is ultimate,
 when it comes to like production and progamming that went
 into the songs. the sounds and drums on this the best.
 if u dont think so then what is better.
 
 
 
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         |  Combo
             from Sex on 2005-09-12 02:29 [#01720909] Points: 7546 Status: Lurker
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 | This album is very well produced, for sure. But I prefer the RDJ album !
 
 
 
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         |  penexpers
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-09-12 02:29 [#01720910] Points: 4030 Status: Regular
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 | confield 
 
 
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         |  Exaph
             from United Kingdom on 2005-09-12 02:31 [#01720911] Points: 3718 Status: Lurker
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 | It is probably the most effort he has put into any of his albums. In terms of range and diversity, as well as
 complexion of particular songs. It is a timeless beauty.
 
 
 
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         |  Exaph
             from United Kingdom on 2005-09-12 02:32 [#01720912] Points: 3718 Status: Lurker
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 | I cant help but think there was a lot less manual labour put into Confield. And for me the results show, but that's just
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         |  staz
             on 2005-09-12 02:39 [#01720915] Points: 9844 Status: Regular
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 | no album is as textured, brilliantly dynamic or plain enjoyable as drukqs. best electronic album for sure.
 
 
 
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         |  _gvarek_
             from next to you (Poland) on 2005-09-12 02:51 [#01720916] Points: 4882 Status: Lurker
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 | druqks is too uneven for me to consider it "the best", the production is stunning for sure, but Confield and Tri
 Repetae are better (if we take only IDM into consideration)
 
 
 
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         |  KEYFUMBLER
             from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2005-09-12 03:13 [#01720920] Points: 5696 Status: Lurker
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 | I agree with _gvarek_.... i thinks its uneven too and so listen to nearly all pf RDJ's other stuff more. I think
 drukqs tracks work much better in mixes than in context of
 the album they're on.
 
 also, RDJ is consistantly great at programming/production so
 i don't see drukq as standing out. As for complexity....  on
 its own it's insignifiicent... i sorta think autechre and
 squarepousher do "complexity"   better. By complexity i mean
 the degree to which you get into a song over time or its
 un-ravel-ability.
 
 
 
 
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         |  J198
             from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-12 03:32 [#01720924] Points: 7342 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | there is some real crap on drukqs. I and probably many others think this could have been a magnificent single disc
 (lets say 75 minutes) release.
 
 
 
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         |  QRDL
             from Poland on 2005-09-12 04:11 [#01720953] Points: 2838 Status: Lurker
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 | It's perfect except bbydhyonchord. The is the only track I skip nowadays.
 
 
 
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         |  impakt
             from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-12 04:23 [#01720962] Points: 5764 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | It's the perfect album, I will treasure it forever. 
 
 
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         |  penexpers
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-09-12 04:26 [#01720967] Points: 4030 Status: Regular | Followup to QRDL: #01720953
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 | this track is awesome 
 
 
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         |  staz
             on 2005-09-12 04:29 [#01720969] Points: 9844 Status: Regular | Followup to QRDL: #01720953
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         |  pigster
             from melbs on 2005-09-12 04:30 [#01720971] Points: 4480 Status: Lurker
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 | lol, by drukqs i meant... um, my version of drukqs : ) Vordhosbn. Omgyjya Switch7. Bbydhyonchord. Cock/Ver10.  	Mt
 Saint Michel Mix+St Michaels Mount. 54 Cymru Beats.
 Meltphace 6. Taking Control. Afx237 V7. Ziggomatic V17.
 this is what i listen to (ive also got a cd with flow coma,
 box energy, mangle 11 and run the place red remix, but we're
 talking about drukqs here).
 everytime i listen to this its just awesome and amazing.
 nothing that i know of comes close to the awesomeness of
 this. (unless of course, you know of something as awesome
 and owuld like to shed some light : ) ).
 
 
 
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         |  Aesthetics
             from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-09-12 04:38 [#01720976] Points: 6796 Status: Lurker | Followup to J198: #01720924
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 | No way! 
 Every track is a masterpiece, except Aussois, Lornaderek and
 Bit 4. But they sure are a part of this magnificent album,
 they fit in really well.
 
 
 
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         |  penexpers
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-09-12 04:39 [#01720977] Points: 4030 Status: Regular | Followup to Aesthetics: #01720976
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 | i disagree, aussois is a joke 
 
 
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         |  QRDL
             from Poland on 2005-09-12 04:39 [#01720978] Points: 2838 Status: Lurker | Followup to staz: #01720969
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 | Sorry guys, after a few dozens of listens Bbydhyonchord becomes boring. It's not bad, but not captivating either.
 
 
 
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         |  Aesthetics
             from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-09-12 04:45 [#01720979] Points: 6796 Status: Lurker | Followup to penexpers: #01720977
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 | Aussois and Lornaderek are jokes...so what. 
 
 
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         |  bogala
             from NYC (United States) on 2005-09-12 04:48 [#01720982] Points: 5125 Status: Regular
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 | xltronic is very pro drukqs 
 
 
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         |  penexpers
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-09-12 04:49 [#01720983] Points: 4030 Status: Regular | Followup to Aesthetics: #01720979
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 | they shouldn't be on the album 
 
 
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         |  bogala
             from NYC (United States) on 2005-09-12 04:50 [#01720984] Points: 5125 Status: Regular
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 | I mean, I like drukqs, but i feel people are more into the technical mastery when they say they like it. And it is
 technically masterful. Lot's of sounds changing and
 morphing. It would definetly crah my computery. He must have
 been using a nord or something. Maybe a Kyma.
 
 
 
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         |  Aesthetics
             from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-09-12 05:00 [#01720992] Points: 6796 Status: Lurker | Followup to penexpers: #01720983
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 | You don't like jokes I guess. 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2005-09-12 05:05 [#01720994] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
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 | i would have prefered a single-cd drukQs instead of the double-cd it is... i don't think double albums are too much
 to take in one listen usually, there are plenty of double
 albums i love, but drukQs is too much to take -
 mostly because of the drill'n'bass tracks.
 
 and now i still love the piano tracks but i've become bored
 of the drill'n'bass ones (which even sound somewhat annoying
 to me now). it's been a while since i've listened to it.
 maybe years.
 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2005-09-12 05:07 [#01720996] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker | Followup to pigster: #01720971
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 | haha you say the album is ultimate, but instead of listening to
 it "properly" you listen to your own compilation of tracks
 from it?
 
 come on... ^^
 you've lost almost all credibility with this post.
 
 
 
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         |  staz
             on 2005-09-12 05:08 [#01720997] Points: 9844 Status: Regular
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 | I feel part of Drukq's brilliance is the fact it IS a 2CD album. The variations between drill and slower/ambient
 tracks just makes the songs emphasize each other much more.
 It works wonderfully! :)
 
 
 
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         |  staz
             on 2005-09-12 05:08 [#01720998] Points: 9844 Status: Regular | Followup to staz: #01720997
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 | Drukqs' :( 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2005-09-12 05:23 [#01721010] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker | Followup to staz: #01720997
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 | but you have the variations on the first disc too... 
 
 
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         |  staz
             on 2005-09-12 05:24 [#01721011] Points: 9844 Status: Regular | Followup to uzim: #01721010
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 | Why would I just want those? 
 
 
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         |  bogala
             from NYC (United States) on 2005-09-12 05:28 [#01721014] Points: 5125 Status: Regular
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 | That's my opinion of drukqs. It would crash my computer. 
 
 
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         |  Anus_Presley
             on 2005-09-12 05:39 [#01721016] Points: 23472 Status: Lurker
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 | me. i don't. 
 
 
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         |  Exaph
             from United Kingdom on 2005-09-12 05:48 [#01721019] Points: 3718 Status: Lurker
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 | and the lush vinyl release has the bonus tracks of playing certain songs (e.g. mt st michels) at slower speed.
 
 
 
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         |  pigster
             from melbs on 2005-09-12 06:08 [#01721027] Points: 4480 Status: Lurker
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 | lol, drukqs is ultimate! sure i make my own version, but have u ever tried listening to what i posted? such a nice
 fucken collection of awesome tracks!
 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2005-09-12 06:08 [#01721028] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker | Followup to staz: #01721011
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 | i didn't mean that exactly, sorry : ) 
 just that listening the two discs in a row really doesn't
 make it for me, too much to digest.
 
 (the best track of the album is in my opinion meltphace6,
 which is on the second disc - even if all in all i prefer
 disc 1 to disc 2)
 
 
 
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         |  hedphukkerr
             from mathbotton (United States) on 2005-09-12 07:54 [#01721079] Points: 8833 Status: Regular
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 | i prefer ...i care because you do. and confield. 
 its still plenty good, but as others said, just too much of
 it. a single disc release of drukqs wouldve been much more
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         |  tolstoyed
             from the ocean on 2005-09-12 07:56 [#01721081] Points: 50073 Status: Moderator
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 | it's ace no doubt! but untilted is there somewhere as well imo.
 
 
 
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         |  Seracelsus
             on 2005-09-12 08:46 [#01721118] Points: 175 Status: Lurker
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 | i think DrukQs is the best, although i agree as an album it doesn't flow very smoothly.
 
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         |  KEYFUMBLER
             from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2005-09-12 08:56 [#01721137] Points: 5696 Status: Lurker
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 | ultravisitor is also and example oif hard/soft mixtures and i think it works far better so na na na na-na...
 
 drukqs is too stecato-ish for me.... the beats are too
 broken for my taste. I prefer rolling drill sounds like
 (HAB) rather than harsh, cut-off ones.. Love the piano and
 noise tracks though and st.  micheals mount - love that.
 
 
 
 
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         |  FlyAgaric
             from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-09-12 08:57 [#01721139] Points: 5776 Status: Regular
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 | it's far from being the ultimate, even in aphex terms. to me it sounds like a gimmick album, the tracks are all good and
 fun, but it's not really an album, sounds more like he
 opened a folder, dragged and dropped them onto a cd and sent
 them off to warp. wasn't this some deal closer album?
 
 i hardly listen to it anymore. if it was a game, i'd give
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-12 09:16 [#01721149] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | The album is a bit of a haphazard grabbag of tunes, but it totally works, they don't feel like afterthoughts (except
 for maybe Orban and another tune or two). It was a pretty
 rewarding experience getting to know the songs, lots of
 hooks to dig up. It was my favorite electronic album ever
 for a couple of years and I still dig it. It's my favorite
 James joint but I don't think it's his quintessential album
 or anything like that, or even an important album. And it's
 not really a step-forward or sideways or back, it's like a
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         |  KEYFUMBLER
             from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2005-09-12 09:22 [#01721156] Points: 5696 Status: Lurker
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 | thinktoys remix does a good job of reducing the album into a nifty digestable slab of aphex for me. Rarely listen to the
 thing in one sitting myself but do tinker with individual
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         |  easterlingman
             from Sarasota (United States) on 2005-09-12 09:23 [#01721158] Points: 217 Status: Lurker
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 | I've probably listened to drukqs more than any other rdj album.. except maybe saw1
 
 it's penultimate imo, though it doesn't contain a good
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         |  Fah
             from Netherlands, The on 2005-09-12 09:49 [#01721176] Points: 6428 Status: Regular
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 | idont know whats wrong with two cd's, more cd's=more listening fun (to me that is). I like all the tracks,
 technically and just simply they way they sound, don't
 prefer the drillnbass tracks over the rest, i like the two
 "joke tracks", i simple love Drukqs.
 Tastes are really different :) (and thank god they are...)
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-12 12:12 [#01721281] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator
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 | I don't find it impressive at all. 
 
 
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         |  Seracelsus
             on 2005-09-12 12:13 [#01721283] Points: 175 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #01721281
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             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-12 12:15 [#01721287] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Seracelsus: #01721283
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 | I don't think Alfred Hitchcock would've liked Aphex Twin, really. I can't be completely sure ofcourse.
 
 
 
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         |  scup_bucket
             from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2005-09-12 12:20 [#01721291] Points: 4540 Status: Regular
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 | I find it very impressive 
 drukqs in ultimate forever!!!
 
 
 
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         |  qrter
             from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-12 12:37 [#01721325] Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to scup_bucket: #01721291
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 | the ultimate forever, eh? sounds like a ghastly place. 
 
 
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         |  thecrimsonguard
             from ∞ (United States) on 2005-09-12 12:44 [#01721337] Points: 1801 Status: Lurker
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 | drukqs is undboutedly the ultimate album aphex has ever released...for me.  don't get me wrong i dont mean to piss
 over all of his other work but this one combines great
 melody and drum programing. i could do with out the odd
 little clips i liked some of the piano works....either way.
 i know there are people that dislike it for some reasons or
 other.  everything has short comings though, think of your
 favorite album.  i'm sure that it sounds perfect to you, but
 to me it could be riddled with lots of flaws production
 wise.  i'm really foaming at the mouth for some more of this
 style of aphex.  fenix funk sure did give me more of that as
 well as the b-side...and a few other tracks from analord.
 but i really really dig what aphex did on this album and i
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         |  elusive
             from detroit (United States) on 2005-09-12 12:56 [#01721355] Points: 18369 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | I like it so much to the point i would defend it as if i were the creator.
 
 
 
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         |  elusive
             from detroit (United States) on 2005-09-12 13:00 [#01721361] Points: 18369 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag
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 | Greatest album of all time.  There are plenty of other timeless RDJ albums and melodies, but this was like "the
 retirement" album.  He should have just disappeared
 completely after releasing this.
 
 I can't even imagine how much time went into the drill
 tracks ...
 
 btw, bbylo sounds really smooth slowed down
 
 good track to chill out to ... nice tune
 
 
 
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