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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 07:08 [#01714860]
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So I spent the whole night getting the infamous autechre max/msp patch to function properly. I synched it up with reaktor and some other stuff(supercollider) and just let it generate some hardcore idm.
I took the recording and mastered it a little, added some compression etc etc, and some 30 mins later I had this :
idm
Discuss!
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-04 07:11 [#01714864]
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sounds ep7 ish
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oyvinto
on 2005-09-04 07:14 [#01714865]
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hah. nice done
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 07:17 [#01714866]
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Yea, it was used for ep7 :)
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oyvinto
on 2005-09-04 07:18 [#01714867]
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ep7 is one of my fav ae releases. now we can make a bunch of ep7's. weeeeee
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ToXikFB
on 2005-09-04 07:18 [#01714868]
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my ears!
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 07:18 [#01714869]
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ep7.30
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xceque
on 2005-09-04 07:21 [#01714870]
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heh... I gots an idea for xlt vibes #17 :)
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-09-04 07:25 [#01714872]
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to much high end!!! how did you master this?
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-09-04 07:27 [#01714874]
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it's cool though ...
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 07:27 [#01714875]
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Hahaha :D
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 07:28 [#01714876]
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The only mastering I did was to bring forth the sounds, cause they were very "silent". I havent touched the freqs, although I would if I wanted to make a real song with this.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 07:29 [#01714877]
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And yes, it was only a matter of 30 minutes, ask oyvinto he witnessed it over msn.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 07:30 [#01714878]
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I imagine I could make some very "good" things with it if I wanted to, just slice things up and give it some real arrangements/progression and stuff.
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big
from lsg on 2005-09-04 07:33 [#01714881]
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is the patch copyrighted?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-04 07:42 [#01714887]
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If it was an mp3hree I'd like to see how 'ep7' it is.
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ymenard
on 2005-09-04 07:44 [#01714888]
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So how did you get the patch?
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 07:48 [#01714890]
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I don't know if it's copyrighted, I doubt it since I believe it's stolen.
ymenard : I got from those sneaky russians, great people!
wMw : can't you get an ogg plugin for whatever player you're using?
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oyvinto
on 2005-09-04 07:51 [#01714891]
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i think those pathches have been posted here on xlt earlier.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-04 07:54 [#01714895]
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So copyright ceases as soon as something is stolen? As far as I was aware the patch was incomplete and created with an earlier verion of Max/MSP. The original samples supposidly produced from it where far better than this effort :P
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MongoloidBaby
from Savannah (United States) on 2005-09-04 07:57 [#01714896]
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this track basically proves to me that i have a willingness to accept basically having every single "rule" of music broken in the creation of a song, and still end up liking it quite a bit.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-09-04 07:58 [#01714897]
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Venture into the lion's den, eh?
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xceque
on 2005-09-04 07:58 [#01714898]
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I think he meant it was written for private consuption only (and then stolen) and therefore copyright wouldn't have been required - no-one else being supposed to see it.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-09-04 07:59 [#01714899]
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it makes some really neat sounds, but it's not as good as autechre. if you could have the patch make something as good as an autechre album, that would be way better. it's interesting.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 07:59 [#01714900]
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I don't think they ever copyrighted something they did not plan to release, doesn't make much sense.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-09-04 07:59 [#01714901]
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This sounds indeed very EP7-ish.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 08:01 [#01714902]
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Hehe yea, but it would be easy to use the output and cut it up and shape it into a real track.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-04 08:11 [#01714906]
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Copyright isn't something you have to do, you automatically hold the copyright to your creations provided you can prove you originally created it (applies to absolutely everything). You may be getting confused with patents.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-04 08:12 [#01714907]
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Am I allowed to start going crazy and shouting caring is sharing?
THESE HAVE TO BE SHARED!? Why horde them.
hahahaha
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ToXikFB
on 2005-09-04 08:17 [#01714910]
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its quite easy to aquire
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 08:19 [#01714911]
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I believe you have to register it with a copyright office if you want to sue someone for copyright violations however, something I doubt they have done for a patch that was never meant to leave their circle(or something)
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-09-04 08:21 [#01714912]
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you're on a pot of gold!
and that first track, i love it already even with all the imperfections
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 08:21 [#01714913]
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Haha, I will only give them to the correct people in order to achive more internet-status and become eCool.
just kidding.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-09-04 08:24 [#01714914]
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what will be the official release-date of ep7.30?
i'm preordering!
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-04 08:24 [#01714915]
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You don't have to, it just helps because it dates the work. As I say provided you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you were the creator of the patch etc. you are covered by copyright law.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 08:25 [#01714917]
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Ok, I'll take your word on it :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-04 08:27 [#01714919]
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There you go Chris
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 08:27 [#01714921]
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Haha, I'll let you know if I ever do anything serious with it.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-09-04 08:28 [#01714922]
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you'd better!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-04 08:31 [#01714923]
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Hahahahaha!
I might have to check this out :D
So much for gl0tch trying to bargain :P
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 08:32 [#01714924]
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If you're not on a mac you can get the puredata version working on windows.
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MongoloidBaby
from Savannah (United States) on 2005-09-04 08:33 [#01714931]
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in the eyes of the law, theoretically, just having created it gives them the copyright, but i don't know if they'd be able to win a court case with just that information. Still, legally, it's copyrighted to them.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-04 08:35 [#01714934]
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Oh yes? Save me trying to use the Mac at work. I think it's time I hit google.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 08:37 [#01714937]
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Just make sure you get the cyclone, zexy and ggext libraries for puredata if you want it to run.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-04 08:39 [#01714941]
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This is sounding technical. I can't be bothered.
:P
I'll do it at some point.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-09-04 08:47 [#01714947]
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are you sure? i doubt whether law is as advanced as to be able to make those kinds of judgements.
a while ago i had a chat with a friend who studies a combination of law/ict, and it was about the issues involved in that area. although it was about copyrighting websites, the same problems will hold, i guess, for music made with generative software. where do you draw the line between what's stolen and what's not? where can the law draw the line? i'm not sure whether something which is made by copyrighted generative software is automatically also copyrighted by the same instance.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 08:47 [#01714948]
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good luck :)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-09-04 08:58 [#01714953]
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This is great! Why bother trying to do something original when you can suck the shitstains out of Rob and Sean's discarded underwear?
I'm sure they'd be real impressed and ask themselves, "wow, how did these shitstain sucking weasels manage to do that? we have no idea, lol"
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-09-04 09:04 [#01714957]
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I hope you got that this was not serious try at making "idm" from my side, I'm just letting people in on how this stuff is.
I've previously stated that I do not wish to make serious music like this, I like electro. But it's good fun to sit up all night getting these things to work, has some mystery to it you know.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-04 09:04 [#01714958]
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lol
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