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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-02 10:25 [#01713434]
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Has anyone else noticed that "Monoid" suggests,
single or alone and this seems to pervade his whole persona,
with his reluctance and difficulty to talk with and relate
to people in real life? This isn't a jibe at the chap, I
like him, I was just making an observation.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 10:26 [#01713436]
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A set, M, defined on rational vectors, such that: (1) 0 is
in M, and (2) if v, w are in M, then v+w is in M. The monoid
is integral if it contains only integer vectors. One can
think of a monoid as a discrete analogue of a convex cone.


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-09-02 10:28 [#01713439]
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euhm....yes!


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-09-02 10:29 [#01713441]
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Monoid


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offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-09-02 10:31 [#01713442]
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moonid


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-09-02 10:31 [#01713443]
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Monoid = Freddy Prince Jr.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 10:32 [#01713445]
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Monoid homomorphisms

A homomorphism between two monoids (M, *) and (M′, @)
is a function f : M → M′ such that

* f(x*y) = f(x)@f(y) for all x, y in M
* f(e) = e′

where e and e′ are the identities on M and M′
respectively.

Not every magma homomorphism is a monoid homomorphism since
it may not preserve the identity. Contrast this with the
case of group homomorphisms: the axioms of group theory
ensure that every magma homomorphism between groups
preserves the identity. For monoids this isn't always true
and it is necessary to state it as a separate requirement.

A bijective monoid homomorphism is called a monoid
isomorphism. Two monoids are said to be isomorphic if there
is an isomorphism between them.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2005-09-02 10:34 [#01713446]
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mono id

single identity


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-02 10:34 [#01713447]
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it always reminds me of hemorrhoid.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 10:34 [#01713448]
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Not every monoid sits inside a group. For instance, it is
perfectly possible to have a monoid in which two elements a
and b exist such that a*b = a holds even though b is not the
identity element. Such a monoid cannot be embedded in a
group, because in the group we could multiply both sides
with the inverse of a and would get that b = e, which isn't
true. A monoid (M,*) has the cancellation property (or is
cancellative) if for all a, b and c in M, a*b = a*c always
implies b = c and b*a = c*a always implies b = c. A
commutative monoid with the cancellation property can always
be embedded in a group. That's how the integers (a group
with operation +) are constructed from the natural numbers
(a commutative monoid with operation + and cancellation
property). However, a non-commutative cancellative monoid
need not be embeddable in a group.

If a monoid has the cancellation property and is finite,
then it is in fact a group.

An inverse monoid, is a monoid where for every a in M, there
exists a unique a-1 in M such that a=aa-1a and a-1=a-1aa-1.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-02 10:36 [#01713449]
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a cluster of monoids groped at her legs.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 10:37 [#01713450]
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don't you mean that a semigroup of monoids with an identity
element groped at her legs?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-02 10:40 [#01713454]
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no. the whole idea of using the word "identity" with the
word "monoid" rings false to me.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 10:41 [#01713455]
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so the fact that any semigroup S may be turned into a monoid
simply by adjoining an element e not in S and defining ee =
e and es = s = se for all s ∈ S, which can be done
recursively (i.e. if S is monoid with identity e, one
obtains a new monoid S ∪ {e′} with identity
e′, and so on) isn't a possibility?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-09-02 10:41 [#01713456]
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p!ouow


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2005-09-02 10:56 [#01713467]
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y'all niggaz need to put the crack pipe down...


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offline epohs from )C: on 2005-09-02 10:58 [#01713469]
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i'll put it down when i'm finished homie


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 10:58 [#01713470]
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Phobiazero?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-09-02 10:59 [#01713472]
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HaHaH!


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-02 11:13 [#01713486]
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I always thought it was for monotonous.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 11:14 [#01713488]
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Please do not create nonsense articles such a Phobiazero.
Thank you. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 17:12, 2
September 2005 (UTC)

This is the discussion page for an anonymous user who has
not created an account yet or who does not use it. We
therefore have to use the numerical IP address to identify
him/her. Such an IP address can be shared by several users.
If you are an anonymous user and feel that irrelevant
comments have been directed at you, please create an account
or log in to avoid future confusion with other anonymous
users


 

offline SamiBekka from arounddd...dd..d (Yugoslavia) on 2005-09-02 11:20 [#01713494]
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Hey Drunken, are you a mastahmatician?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 11:22 [#01713495]
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hahah!

my foot fell asleep, so no.


 

offline pigster from melbs on 2005-09-02 11:27 [#01713496]
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hes a drunkenanything you want


 

offline SamiBekka from arounddd...dd..d (Yugoslavia) on 2005-09-02 11:31 [#01713499]
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so, where all of those smart lines come from? booze?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 11:32 [#01713500]
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you betcha!

booze and wikipedia.


 

offline SamiBekka from arounddd...dd..d (Yugoslavia) on 2005-09-02 11:37 [#01713504]
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true, thoes two makes a hell of a combination for smartness.
though, wikis sometimes unnecessary. booze'll do.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 11:38 [#01713505]
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booze booze booze and snooze!


 

offline SamiBekka from arounddd...dd..d (Yugoslavia) on 2005-09-02 11:41 [#01713509]
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and a bruise and a cruise and a lose and a muse


 

offline SamiBekka from arounddd...dd..d (Yugoslavia) on 2005-09-02 11:43 [#01713511]
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and being loose


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-09-02 11:44 [#01713513]
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you guys are right!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 11:46 [#01713516]
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don't you mean "tight," you naughty panda?


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-09-02 11:48 [#01713518]
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hahaha! I like rum! :D


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-02 11:49 [#01713520]
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RUM!

Cuba libre motherfucker!!!


 

offline SamiBekka from arounddd...dd..d (Yugoslavia) on 2005-09-02 12:43 [#01713560]
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yeah, bacardi means party!!!


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-09-02 12:46 [#01713564]
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:D!!!!!!!!!


 


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