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Campaigners have long argued for violent pornographic sites to be shut down, chief among them Liz Longhurst whose daughter Jane was killed two years ago by a man obsessed with violent internet sexual pornography. Maybe watching so much porrn stopped him killing soonerr to fulfil his sexual desirres. Come on, the porrn didn't make him kill that woman in any shape orr forrm. |
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Yeah, but it's a comfortable scapegoat! |
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I'm tirred of it. |
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then don't read those kind of stories. |
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oh, well he could have killed her through a forced deepthroat .... |
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I can't help it. I see the worrd porrn and I just have to rread. |
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porn, porn , porn .... |
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Do I take it you're all for the kind of sites this guy visited then? |
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What is the necessary criteria for a porn site to be labeled "violent"? |
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Necrophilia? Auto-erotic asphyxiation, rape, physical assaults, paedophilia - that's the kind of thing they're talking about in this instance. |
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it contains violence? |
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Neverr vistied one, don't make this perrsonal. I don't have to want to ban something just because I don't like it. I don't like crricket, it's fucking shit, but I don't think it should be banned. And I rrefuse to listing to anyone who wants to speak forr the women in these videos... interrview them on ITV. |
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Not peadophilia in this case... |
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ignorance doesn't solve the problem |
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Is violence something that causes ACTUAL pain to the women... orr the depiction of pain... in that case we'll have to ban everry action movie going. |
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I just think it's fucking bullshit all overr again. |
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curiosity doesn't necessarily mean your perveted. Porn is/was such a taboo that it inadvertently raises inquisitivness. If you don't like somthing you don't always ignore it, you somtimes try to get more info around the subject. |
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yeah, that's what I said. we all should be ignorant. Carl says he tired of things like this, I then say: don't read about things like this then, Carl. |
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I see what you mean. But violent porn is pretty different to cricket - although I have no interest in either. I think when it comes to material like this you can't always assume that everyone will make the same intellectual response to the site as you. Everyone has their own definition of perversion - but if I think that even most liberal people would consider the content of these sites as such. If depictions of violence and abuse (real or otherwise) have no artistic merit, and are intended to provoke no other response than to gratify by fuelling fantasies, then I can understand why many intelligent, open-minded people choose to deem it obscene. |
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someone says that perhaps these sites are not the reason this individual went insane and killed this poor girl, perhaps that this man had something wrong with him and him watching these sites was just a symptom and you take that to mean that that someone is all for those sites. this baffles me - how do you even do that, make those steps in your head? |
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I stand corrected. |
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STOP trrying to shape us all in to little MPs. I don't like what you like but it doesn't make it wrrong, you don't like what I like but also it doesn't make it wrrong. |
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lol, simple approach but it can be taken out of context I mean for example: I don't like asians so i'm just meant to pretend they don't exist. |
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i'm more interested as to why you put two r's everytime (?) |
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It was a flippant remark. |
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Little MPs? Was that intended for me? I was only expressing my take on the subject. That I can understand why some people want these sites banned. But I did also say I can see your point of view. Personally I haven't made my mind up about this subject yet - it's a tricky one. |
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Again... these sites exist because people want to see it... I don't want any woman to actually get hurrt (forr the rrecorrd I'm speaking firrst perrson because it's easierr), but is it wrrong to want to see herr prretend to get hurrt? In the same way I don't want to see a man actually get torrturred I do sometimes want to watch sick horrrrorr films? Why because you'rre wanking overr one and not wanking overr the otherr, does it make it wrrong? |
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No it wasn't. |
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The rreason that these videos may be made illegal is because therre arre not enough people who like them to stop it frrom happening. It's a niche marrket that, yeah, makes most people sick, but SO what. It's too easy to make it the bad guy and make it look like something is being done, banning people frrom having these videos on theirr computerrs will achieve nothing. It won't solve any prroblem forr the simple rreason... that therre is NO prroblem to solve. |
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Again I take your point. But I'm not comfortable assuming that everyone's intellectual and emotional response to the material would be the same. It's inevitable that some people out there want to see a woman actually get hurt, and so watch one pretend to get hurt because it's the next best thing. I just think it touches on a very grey area of morality. |
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There's also the whole issue of driving these films underground. |
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If you ban them, that is. |
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I'm more interested in HOW he manages to put 2 r's every time. A little low-level program, ey? |
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i vote for his R key being fucked |
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It's inevitable that some people out there want to see a woman actually get hurt, and so watch one pretend to get hurt because it's the next best thing. So you'd have his one vent taken away... surrely that would make his morre dangerrous. |
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*him |
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Very possibly, yes. The chances are - like most things - it's different in every case. |
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if you ban the porn industry it will no doubt find a new way to rear his (objectivly) ugly head. It's like drugs, you can ban them but that isn't going to stop it happening. |
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If violent porrn made people commit violent sex crrimes then the news would be swamped with rreporrts... but it's not. (If it was actually possible to stop people watching this stuff on the new...)...who knows what the consequences would be? |
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*news |
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Yeah. But for a lot of people permitting something is equal to condoning it, and no government wants to be seen to condone violent porn and intravenous class A drugs. |
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God, that post made me angrry forr so many rreasons. So my perrsonal liberrties once again arre infrringed upon to please the majorrity of voterrs. |
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the same stimuli may give different reactions depening on who receives them... in my opinion, just like the same pornography can be exciting for some people and revolting to some others, violent pornography can act as a vent for some people, and as a "catalyser" (or/and even a source of "inspiration") it can even act as both at the same time. it's never that simple. (also, i'm damn sure some porn actors do get hurt for real sometimes... even if it's been their choice to become porn actors.) |
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There's no day without somebody asking about these Rs. I think it tickles A_P very pleasantly. |
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but you can't sit around and do nothing; or can you. It's their lives and if their happy, why not? but then the problem is how far do you take this philosophy? I like defacating in my garden so nobody should be pissed off, but what if sombody likes getting pissed off at stuff. The problem goes on and on. Who has the responsability and resources to do anything? |
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"So my perrsonal liberrties once again arre infrringed upon to please the majorrity of voterrs." ...this happens indeed far too often. -_- if governments were more open-minded and daring, i'm sure cannabis would be legalized by now... |
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some prn actors like the pain , i'm sure. |
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you can't please everyone. What about serial rapists and murderers, the majority are against them (and for good reason). |
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If everr I kill anyone they'll prrobably have to ban Tunnocks Caramel Wafers since i'm addicted to them. |
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If you'rre suggesting that being allowed to watch what you want to watch is the same as being allowed to kill orr rrape who you want to kill orr rrape arre the same thing... you'rre an idiot. I'm going to bed. Goodnight. |
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