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Anus_Presley
on 2005-08-30 17:18 [#01710502]
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Fucked the sentence up, I'm the idiot.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 17:22 [#01710505]
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the problem with democracy, do minorities really get their say?
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 17:26 [#01710507]
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no is the answer,
and anus i wasn't putting murderers and pervets in the same boat i was merely using that as an extreme example to get my point across which is you can't have it both ways, you can't call banning porn an infringment of rights when violence is involved. By watching porn you are fuelling the violence and so are indirectly involved in the whole process.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 17:32 [#01710512]
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so why do you think violent action films are not banned?
there are plenty of films which involve people being shot/killed/maimed/etc...
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 17:41 [#01710530]
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ah but violent porn isn't banned yet, is it?
you've also opened a whole new area for debate. Is a historical war film warrant of a violence ban. If yes, then do we take it as far as forgetting World War two never happened.
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mestizo
from madriz on 2005-08-30 17:54 [#01710561]
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can of worms mate ..
i personally don't care for any of those kinds of porn.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 17:59 [#01710576]
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de que parte de latinoamerica eres?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-08-30 18:03 [#01710584]
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your stupidity is astounding
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 18:05 [#01710588]
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I love you too, sombody has eaten your hair by the way ;P
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-08-30 18:06 [#01710590]
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it is to reflect my real life hairstyle.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 18:11 [#01710592]
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:) I saw the thread. It's not so bad, it could be the next biggest craze.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-08-30 18:15 [#01710593]
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what, shit haircuts?
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 18:19 [#01710596]
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lol- aesthetics are subjective. a shit hair cut is the next fasion craze.
on a side note wasn't it gel that made your hair a poor imitation of wolverine's?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-08-30 18:22 [#01710599]
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no its hairspray. and thats the first wolverine comparison i've had i think
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 18:28 [#01710606]
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pleasure to be the first :)
my hair is crazy, it's like barbed wire :S
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-31 15:12 [#01711541]
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Don't let that post make you angry. I wasn't saying that's how I see things - just that that's the way it seems to be as far as a lot of people are concerned.
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mestizo
from madriz on 2005-08-31 16:00 [#01711567]
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colombia ...
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-31 20:27 [#01711777]
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cool, me to!
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2005-08-31 20:35 [#01711780]
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porn really is depressing, in any shape or form
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mimi
on 2005-08-31 22:36 [#01711797]
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why? can you elaborate?
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mestizo
from madriz on 2005-08-31 22:43 [#01711798]
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i think the depressing aspect could be the drainage of energy ....
@xeron - really? that's cool , y vives ahi, o estas en inglaterra ?
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Q4Z2X
on 2005-08-31 23:58 [#01711803]
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Most pornography is depressing because it depicts human beings as strictly-sex robots. Sex is firstly seen as some sort of intimate experience, and the type of people who need (or, I suppose, want) exposure to typical pornographic 'entertainment' on a regular basis are probably in need of actual intimacy themselves. Also, these people (typically men) likely don't want to be reminded that because of their own less-than-ideal traits that entice them to want to watch porno, they are often treated to the same strict superficial scrutiny that they have when picking a potential mate, or fantasy-carrying porno 'star'. So if these people continue to accept and revel in these artificial forms of intimacy and passion, they are screwing themselves (over) and are often habitually wanking away any hope for actual closeness or need for another human being's mind rather than body.
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mimi
on 2005-09-01 00:12 [#01711807]
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don't you think it's kind of silly (not to mention condescending) to lump everybody who likes porn together in that way?
i'm sure there are some people that like porn and will also be alone for the rest of their lives, but i really doubt they're the majority. and even if they are, who are we to judge them for it? not everybody wants to spend every waking ounce of energy on luring in a sex partner. you can't always be intimate with somebody, that's not realistic. i guess i just don't understand why choosing to be alone is looked down on.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-09-01 00:23 [#01711810]
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Maybe if you think in black and white, which I hope you do not do. Its not the cause, its the reaction. If people respond to pornography in a negative way, it will have a negative effect. If they respond to it in a possitive way, it can have a positive effect, and (my favorite) reacting to it in neither a negative or a positive way, it will have no effect whatsoever.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2005-09-01 02:34 [#01711836]
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I hope that the violent porn doesn't apply to the Slap Happy and Throatgaggers series which are two of my favourite titles.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-01 07:17 [#01711994]
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More comedy gold from the (admittedly hilarious) sarcasm-maestro, bill_hicks!
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zero-cool
on 2005-09-01 08:15 [#01712052]
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noooo my pornnnnnnnnnn.....................................
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Q4Z2X
on 2005-09-01 14:12 [#01712385]
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I wasn't trying to lump anyone who's ever watched porn into that category, and I wasn't referring to people who 'like' porn, rather I was referring to the people who feel they 'need' it, the people who watch it regularly as their only outlet of sexuality. I would think that the majority of these people would prefer to actually have sex regularly and see porn as some sort of alternative. I'm sure the reasons for someone to not have a sex partner are many, but I would think that for most it's not because they want to be alone, or can't be hassled with a relationship. I doubt that there's a person out there who is completely content with nothing but their friendships and their porn watching sessions. I think the connection between mates is different and usually deeper than that between friends, and human beings naturally need real physical/emotional/mental interaction with a mate to be truly satisfied. I'm not saying that it isn't logical for some to give up sex in order to avoid the responsibilities of a relationship, but such a sacrifice would probably make watching a simulated version of what they are missing stir up some negative emotions and feelings of inadequacy.
I'm not looking down at anyone for being alone, voluntary or involuntary, but I don't find it logical for some people to think that it's hopeless for them, and willingly get lost in some kind of fantasy porn world, when often all they'd have to do to find real companionship is compromise and/or be a bit more brave.
I'm not really talking about guys who fetch a tape occasionally from the attic when the wife/girlfriend is gone for the weekend.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-09-01 14:14 [#01712391]
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Girls cross the road to avoid me. I haven't had a shag for about 2 years. There's no way anyone is gonna sleep with me. Girls are fucking HARSH.
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Q4Z2X
on 2005-09-01 14:23 [#01712406]
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I don't really see how most people could respond to porn in a positive way. I mean, it seems to me it's like some Mcdonalds version of sex or something. It's cash-in, cum-out, turn the tv off right away and hide the tape afterwards. To me it doesn't seem to be something most could learn from or be inspired by (other than to have sex). The only positive thing about it that I can think of is it could help arrouse a couple together or something, but most porn isn't at all intended for that, and I would think that such a use for it is much more rare.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2005-09-01 14:36 [#01712451]
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That's quite amazing. Isn't your name really Kasia and you live in GMT+1, not GMT+6, actually about 8km from my place. Because these are her axact words. I don't like her but this time I suppose she was right, which makes you right too of course.
This doesn't mean that I don't have Rocco Invades Poland on my HD.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2005-09-01 15:10 [#01712522]
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violent porn may sometimes actually end up with the girl getting hurt, but its already illegal to hurt her.
the same thing happens with real sex, should we ban that too?
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-03 06:33 [#01714105]
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no, desafortunadamente vivo en inglaterra
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