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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-26 14:27 [#01707232]
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Hi-
Ok. My anticipated workflow at the moment is to generate "sketches" in Reason using the Combinator structure and some "seemingly" advanced re-routing / modulation ideas. From there, I like to go to Max and rebuild on these ideas, making the timing engine more mature, while triggering simple FM sounds in MSP, until I get a basic idea of what I want the sound, rhythm, etc. to be like...
Now here's the next (and unacheived part) I want to take this "engine" and rewire it into Logic so I can have the same timing, but control better sounding instruments / kits. Has anyone had any success with rewiring Max into Logic and controlling say, Ultrabeat, Battery, or other larger AU synths. If so, how is it done?
With this Max "engine" I'm looking to blur the lines between process and composition, but want to def. make more beat oriented / organic / generative tracks ala AE (and their infamous max-patch but with better sounds), Syndrone, or say someone like Aoki Takamasa and what he did in "Silicom Two"
Thanks in advance
gl0tch
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-08-26 15:39 [#01707255]
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Sounds interesting. Keep me posted if you find out.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-26 16:48 [#01707304]
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Will do. (glad somebody read this thread, heh heh)
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-08-26 16:59 [#01707310]
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I am sorry i can't help!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-08-26 17:13 [#01707312]
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Why use Rewire? Why not just midi?
Sounds like you're on Mac - surely there's a Mac program that can work as a virtual midi patchbay so you wire the out-port on Max to the in-port on Logic... on Windows I use Midi Yoke for that to route Max into Reaktor.
Or is Midi timing too loose / various other reasons?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-26 17:56 [#01707320]
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I guess that work actually! Though my experience with Midi in Logic has come directly through a hardware controller, not max midi messages which I intend to be using...
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-08-26 17:58 [#01707321]
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i know that you can use live with max running and simply input whatever max has got open via lives midi channel. not sure if thats rewire but it works very well.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-26 18:06 [#01707322]
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Yeah, thats the plan. Have Logic open and all the midi data Max is spitting out gets sent into there. Essentially, I want Max to exist as the performer of the instruments hosted in Logic.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-08-26 18:30 [#01707331]
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yeah that should be good. let me know how it goes
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-08-26 19:50 [#01707363]
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Yeah, so now i know. You could probably use it any sequencer then , well at least to some effect.
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oyvinto
on 2005-08-26 19:55 [#01707365]
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yeah. interesting. i have to learn max
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-08-26 20:05 [#01707368]
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Me too.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-26 22:15 [#01707385]
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Yeah, if this works its going to be the shit all over the place.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-08-27 01:04 [#01707402]
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do you do your art work with Jitter, Gl0tch?
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2005-08-27 13:37 [#01707770]
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logic is a pain in the arse for rewire
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-27 14:44 [#01707796]
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I use Jitter and Oil Paint.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-27 15:15 [#01707802]
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I think i found the solution to this. As long as you have both Max and Logic open, in the Environment window you can get Logic to "see" the Max midi messages and from there, route them to the respective AU instruments. DOPE
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-08-27 17:50 [#01707840]
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yeah thast why macs are good, due to that erm i dunno duelcore? thingie? something core anyway.
but i dont have to spend alot of money on my PC so yay
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