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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-26 10:15 [#01707087]
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OK-
I had a discussion with a friend about this movie. Are the "beings" at the end of this movie aliens or advanced robots? They looked strikingly similar to the dudes who were making the clones in StarWars II. Just curious what the consensus was. I thought this was the dopest part of the movie.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-08-26 10:19 [#01707090]
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i think it was left deliberately vague.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-26 10:22 [#01707091]
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eh..?
don`t they say flat out that they are aliens?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-26 10:23 [#01707092]
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oh, and the only thing that could make that ending good is if Lucy Liu did full frontal nudity in it, and it would still be pretty damned crappy...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-26 10:25 [#01707093]
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heck, not even Lucy Liu tribbing with Jessica Alba would make that ending above average...
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-08-26 10:31 [#01707099]
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aliens. but, the movie is so shitty the only thing worth pondering is why it was made at all. kubrick rolls in his grave.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-08-26 10:40 [#01707115]
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why can't "aliens" also be "advanced robots"?
anyway, it was a disappointing film.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-26 11:20 [#01707153]
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Well I thought it was aliens too. Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying I liked the movie. I just thought the hyperdimensional shapeshifting autechre aliens in search of tron 3.0 were the shit.
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morguean
from Calgary (Canada) on 2005-08-26 11:38 [#01707165]
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I'm pretty sure they say flat out that they are robots. Can't remember specifically when. Keep on talkin about their history, and then Jude Law was like "In the end the only ones that will be left is us"
I think spielberg did a sweet job. Obviously it's not as good as it could have been had it been 100% Kubrick but yo -
robots.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-08-26 12:22 [#01707175]
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they don't seem to say either way definitively, but i went back and read the script, and now i think they were probably robots.
either way, meh...
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-08-26 12:25 [#01707179]
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come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn he made it nto a kids film, YAY triumph over the evil man and throw stuff at him
all of his films, except jaws probably have shitty kiddy bits in them
,even minority report, that was a great film, but then he had the 'lets burn some hamburgers with the jetpack' bit and it made me squirmmmmmmmmmm
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-08-26 12:27 [#01707180]
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yeah, speilberg kinda sucks at making grown up movies.
for what it's worth, wiki thinks they were robots (androids) too.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-08-26 12:34 [#01707185]
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I like Spielberg.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-08-26 12:35 [#01707186]
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You sir are a man of fine taste
*pours vintage wine*
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shibumi
from United States on 2005-08-26 12:58 [#01707198]
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In the commentary, I believe, Spielberg says they are machines.
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mcbpete
from Devon (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-26 13:09 [#01707206]
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Yeah wasn't it stated that they were machines created and built by machines or something like that.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-26 13:17 [#01707210]
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they are infact Hanaloids,sent by me to find and bring back masuimi max,then i could have a fresh one every day.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-08-26 13:20 [#01707214]
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o yes it would!
i don't know what tribbing is, but it sounds sexually orientated. anyways, that, and only that ending would make it noteworthy.
if there's one movy which should be remixed by cunningham, this is it
...as long as he leaves the liu vs. alba ending untouched.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-26 13:41 [#01707223]
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I think I can live with a prospective future where machine intelligence is so evolved it enters into ontological powers / perspectives, etc. That would be rad. Thinking of this shit makes me want to write better electronic music.
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morguean
from Calgary (Canada) on 2005-08-27 00:26 [#01707398]
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mahaha what a great thing to be inspired by.
If not the greatest.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-08-27 01:00 [#01707401]
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I think Cunningham was right. He should have done it all in that house.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-08-27 01:12 [#01707403]
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What difference does it make if they are androids, cyborgs, aliens, robots, holograms, mental projections, ghosts... is it "ohh, they were robots at the end... maybe it wasn't such a shit film after all"?
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-08-27 01:51 [#01707406]
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I tought the movie was aight
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ymenard
on 2005-08-27 04:51 [#01707451]
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They were robots, its mentionned in various places, including a Spielberg interview. Not the commentary, Spielberg doesn't do that. Its just the "skinny elongated bodies with big heads that march gracefully = Aliens" mentality thats in the mainstream.
It changes everything if they are robot... THINK about it, for them, he like a primitive ape unfrozen, a previous version of them. Why is he the only one, what are his feelings, what are his motives, why his motives?
Anyway Kubrick's ending was great, but a fucking downer with him giving his mother pills and his blurred vision of the world they recreate at the end (no father, etc..). In fact, considering the absence of fatherhood in many spielberg movies, I'm surprised you didn't see that aspect in the final draft.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-08-27 05:07 [#01707458]
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i love tacky action sci-fi multi trillion dollar hollywood films
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-08-27 09:25 [#01707570]
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Its just the "skinny elongated bodies with big heads that march gracefully = Aliens" mentality thats in the mainstream.
I know, that kind of blinkered thinking has led to such repression and retardation in social development. If Joe Public could just accept that not only fictitous aliens are graceful skinny bigheads, but also fictitous robots, then I think finally we could all, as a race, just fucking move on and bring about the realisation of cool stuff like skinny robots with big heads.
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