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what's the chance he would come up with something as good as this album again? i hope he's not out of ideas, because that last thing he put out was very disappointing..there's no news about him, is he still into music at all? :) |
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mmmm.. I listened to this yesterday I haven't actually heard his later albums.. I got the impression this latest one was only live performances of songs from endtroducing, but it seems I may have been wrong.. anyway, I didn't buy it yet, nor did I listen to it... |
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I'd be surprised if he can manage something as good as his early output again. Endtroducing and the EPs that surrounded it (collected on PreEmptive Strike) are so superior to his followup album, any of the work he's done with Quannum, or any of the other pies he's had his dirty little fingers in since '96. That said, the instrumental tracks on the first UNKLE LP (the ones that have Shadow written all over them) rate among his best material too. I did go and see him for his first 'live' tour in 2002 and it was pretty good fun, a nice spread of his material. He didn't rely too heavily on music from The Private Press, thank god. |
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never again, i don't think. i think one of the greatest things about this album is it somehow communicated how he listens to hiphop. you can really hear how his mind works. for example, play 14. Napalm Brain/Scatter Brain from 2:04 onwards...he gradually layers different elements, occasionally pauses to listen to them individually, then after "understanding" them somehow work them into the composition. there is something almost expressionistic about it.. |
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yeah, unkle's lp (if you mean psyence fiction or something) was pretty great..probably my fav record at the time it came out.. private press was just boring..he was trying to come up with more trendy sound or something but it just doesn't fit his music.. d'mastah, you're not missing much..although if you haven't heard that unkle you should perhaps.. |
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I've heard unkle, but that didn't appeal much to me. the only good thing was that video with the guy that got hit by all the cars. |
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Rabbit in the Headlights? The Unkle material since Shadow left has been really mediocre. |
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Josh Davis records worth having: DJ Shadow - Endtroducing DJ Shadow - Preemptive Strike UNKLE - Psyence Fiction |
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yeah, probably, and it was only the video that was good. |
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yes, an accurate list. everything else is episodic kitsch. |
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I should reiterate, though, that the standout tracks on UNKLE's Psyence Fiction record are the ones where Shadow worked alone: Unkle Main Title Theme, Unreal, Celestial Annihilation When it comes to the collaborations, it tends to be the ones with less 'obvious' artists that work best. Working with people like Richard Ashcroft (The Verve), Mike D (Beastie Boys) and James Hetfield (Metallica) feel rather like showboating for the sake of it. Of the 'celebrity' collaborations the Thom Yorke (Radiohead) track works best, but I really think the less well known guest artists come off better: Kool G Rap, Alice Temple, Atlantique. Even Badly Drawn Boy wasn't well known when he guested on this record. Nursery Rhyme sounds nothing like his solo output, so don't be put off by the fact that he's the same guy who recorded the OST for About A Boy starring Huge Grunt. |
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That UNKLE record was rated so highly when it came out, but time has shown up the cracks pretty quickly. Like I said, the high points are Shadow's contributions. Just how important he was to the project has been proved time and time again in all the appalling James Lavelle-led UNKLE releases over the past few years. It's kind of like the Gorrilaz project in my book - just because you bring together a group of individuals that have been successful in their own right doesn't mean that you're garuanteed to produce a good record. |
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i always thought davis was responsable for the whole music part while lavelle just provided all those famous people.. i think i'll give a listen to that album later today..haven't listened to it in years..can't even remember the songs anymore. |
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You're more or less right. Lavelle was billed as "creative director" whatever that may be. But - on certain tracks at least - the collaborators must have had some input. All I meant was, the strongest tracks are the Shadow-only instrumentals. |
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lames lavelles musical contribution was those two shitty adverts..... |
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Haha - yeah, that makes sense. I hate filler on albums so much. That's why I never really buy any rap records. Half the tracks are devoted to pointless skits that you only want to listen to once, if at all. |
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i just happen to have it playin right now. had to look up. as a matter of fact the damn song just came on as i was... whateva. |
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i dont see anything wrong with the private press, its a good record. entroducing is a once in a lifetime piece of genius, it will be forever heralded as one of the greatest albums ever made, it doesnt necessarily show a lack of new ideas of shadows part, it's just one hell of an album to follow up. |
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imo his two albums : Endtroducing and The Private Press are both really excellent !! i don't understand how you can dislike the second one, it's different from the first but excellent too ! i even prefer this one i guess preemptive strike is really good too ! nevertheless i admit that his last album, which was mainy composed of cuts from The Private Press (it's called The Private Repress) is not good |
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i have a rar of the private repress but it's passworded and i've lost the URL to the mp3 blog from which i got it and forgot to save the password. bogey. |
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it's one of the albums i want to hear but haven't got yet... i'm bound to hear it someday anyway. i've read somewhere that «'Deadringer' [by RJD2] sounds like the record Shadow should have made instead of the disappointing 'The Private Press'» - and i love Deadringer. |
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I found deadringer a bit patchy to be honest. My housemate used to play it a lot when it came out; some of it I liked, but some of it I tired of really quickly. |
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i like deadringer but the private press is even better imo |
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Where abouts in France are you from? Half my family live there. |
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the deluxe edition should be released shortly... do you think i should get the deluxe edition or the normal one? i could have the normal one for, like, 11 euros whereas the deluxe edition would be like 20. deluxe edition tracklisting (according to amazon.fr): DISC ONE 1. Best Foot Forward 2. Building Steam With a Grain of Salt 3. Number Song 4. Changeling 5. What Does Your Soul Look Like, Pt. 4 6. Stem/Long Stem 7. Mutual Slump 8. Organ Donar 9. Why Hip Hop Sucks in '96 10. Midnight in a Perfect World 11. Napalm Brain/Scatter Brain 12. What Does Your Soul Look Like, Pt. 1 [Blue Sky Revisit] DISC TWO 1. Best Foot Forward [Alternate Version] 2. Building Steam With a Grain of Salt [Alternate Take Without Overdubs] 3. Number Song [Cut Chemist Party Mix] [Mix] 4. Changeling [Original Demo Excerpt] [Demo Version] 5. Stem [Cops 'N' Robbers Mix] [Mix] 6. Soup 7. Red Bus Needs to Leave! 8. Mutual Slump [Alternate Take Without Overdubs] [Alternate Take] 9. Organ Donor [Extended Overhaul] 10. Why Hip-Hop Sucks in '96 [Alternate Take] 11. Midnight in a Perfect World [Gab Mix] [Mix] 12. Napalm Brain [Original Demo Beat] [Demo Version] 13. What Does Your Soul Look Like [Peshay Remix] 14. DJ Shadow Live in Oxford, England, Oct. 30, 1997 [Live] |
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I've got the private press vinyl, amazing artwork on it imo. |
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the b sides of private press was quite nice |
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it is happening again..............it is happening again........................ |
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get the deluxe one dude ! nacho : i'm not too keen on these b-sides, but i love the original album, do you ? |
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I love Private Press, its definetly a lot better than Psyence Fiction. The Kool G Rap tune and Unreal are heavy though... the album is not something I listen to a lot, it just doesnt really work. |
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Psyence Fiction is Shadow's beats for me, mostly...it looks/sounds as if Lavelle used Shadow a bit in that project. well, Beasties' rapping is the thing there though. |
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entroducing :D / private press D: |
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too bad you don't like good music obara : psyence fiction was ok, thanks to shadow, but the seconth UNKLE album (without him) was awful |
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i played unkle 2nd album only once, and don't want to play it again. |
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eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth... brrr that song sucked |
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I'm not very fond of post-Endtroducing Shadow either. I don't know what happened to him. However we could be in for a treat with his next album if that Cage track he produced on Hell's Winter is anything to go by. (hi) |
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reading this thread made me dig this release up again. just fuckin excellent. anyone seen the live dvd? first thing i said was, 'holy shit, shadow is white?!?!?!' |
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it does sound very black..i think i was surprised when i found out as well :) |
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there's a pic of josh in the sleeve of entroducing (atleast mine has) no surprise for me |
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There's no pic of him in mine i think. Any pic ? |
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he's standing, flipping through some 7" (maybe its the shop from the scratch-movie - not sure) . it's on the second innersleeve on the original Mo Wax pressing oh wait, I found a pic |
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i never look those inlays, so maybe i was thinking that black dude on the cover is him :) |
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its a bit hard to not notice on vinyl :) |
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ah yes, i only have the cd version..but if there's one to have on vinyl, this one has to be it :) |
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Im happy I got reminded that this album exist again. Have not listened to it in ages. listening now though and it's awsome, thanks =D |
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My favorite song is track 4. Don't remember its name. Such a beautiful melody. There're some tracks i don't like that much tough, like napalm brain or the one after organ donor. |
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I think the best hiphop music I ever heard is the scratch sequence in the begging of the windowlicker video. |
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yeah, thats is class |
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is what he's up to now. Lame |
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even the girls have fake tities.. |
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