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1/5. He sux. |
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thanks though |
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its okay |
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he doesn't suck though |
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He sux hard. his music is very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, ghei. Like he uses all these cliched sounds to get a "dark" atmosphere. Oh, I'm scared! Then he kicks in with all this angry breaks shit likes he's really hard or something. Fuck him. |
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are you really vsnares in real life really? |
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yes, either him or ferris bueller |
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uhm.... uhmmmmmm..... uuuhmmm..... |
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sounds like someone needs a hug. do you need a hug? i leik vsnaers. will listen to tihs when i git back hoem. |
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same shit, different album. Get back to me when he releases a beatless album that is just as hardcore as his other shit. Or better yet, a follow up the HCCBU, his only "different" album to date. Sorry, putting classical instrumentation under a few amen breaks doesnt constitute progress. Ask Frog Pocket. |
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it's a good thing we have you here to decide what artists should do based on your personal preferences! the music world would be lost without you! |
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Re:Sorry, putting classical instrumentation under a few amen breaks doesnt constitute progress. True, Meatholes is Druqks retarded little brother. |
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i like this album overall, but some of these tracks are a bit bland. sort of samey, like when aphex twin releases 11 EP's of badly-mixed analog music - that sort of bland. i think i'd have liked this more if this was five tracks instead of eight, to be honest. but the good tracks really stand out. i'll buy this one. |
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yo this is badboi |
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I'm at the 6-th track and I really think this album deserves being called boring and uninnovative. However I really like Tobin-like Aamelotasis and Des Plaines filled with Nurse With Wound samples (I like the fact that he uses NWW, not the track itself). I am a little dissapointed, but I wouldn't be if this was the first thing by VS I heard. |
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I recognise a current 93 sample in the first track. it's from the "swastikas for goddy" album. I don't really like the way the music constantly breaks up with some kind of machine gun sound, it's a bit overdone here |
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I'm not feeling those samples at all. |
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"my eyes are black and white" in the first track |
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and "...your eyes..." in the same track from "the dance of fools" from Automating Volume Two. In Des Plaines, when the counter reaches 00:33:0 in this strange player, samples from "I am the poison" start to occur. A great song it is, like most of "Sugar Fish Drink" compilation. |
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snares is played out. there's enough people out there doing the same shit just as good if not better than him now. kudos towards being the public face of a sub-genre, but thats about it. the gravy train has officially left the building. unfortunately, it keeps coming in to park b/c it knows suckahs is gonna be buying tickets each time. |
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if people didnt like snares then they probably wouldn't buy his music. he will either keep making loads of music because people are buying it, or demand will dwindle, it will no longer be a viable option to release music for money and he will retire early/fade into obscurity as for your opinion, no one actually cares. |
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This album was recorded in 2003. |
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I've not followed VSnares very closely over the last few years. Got sent this as a promo. I don't love it, but it definitely has it's moments. As for this not being an innovative record - very few albums are or ever have been. It's not an easy thing to pull off. |
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I like your avatar. But then again, no one cares. |
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Yes, but the charge of not being innovative in case of snares has its special connotations. It implements a question of why would one record 33 (if not more) LPs, EPs etc and venture so little. Don't get me wrong, I like his music. I love to listen to Abomination Street in my laughable car on my laughable farting speakers, but with every release I get more and more impatient. I think there is alrealdy another thread for this anyway. |
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QRDL- I just saw you're from Poland. My GF has been there since Aug 1. Just thought you should know that. Keep it real. (venetian snares still sucks now) gl0tch. |
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Where is she axactly? Maybe I should show her some places?HOHOHO |
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She was in Malbrok, Dansk, and Warsaw... then off to Prague. |
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"snares is played out. there's enough people out there doing the same shit just as good if not better than him now." who? |
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Yeah who the fuck is doing stuff similar to Rossz and Huge Chrome? Nobody. That's the modern Aaron at the moment. |
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Damn those beats are clean and upright! |
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Well, my city is approximately in the middle between Warsaw and Prague. Ah Prague, I need to get drunk in that beautiful city again. Night, Charles Bridge on the left, illuminated opera house on the right, tasty lager and a bottle of beherovka in my backpack... |
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Uhh... right off the top of my head.... Vytear Xanopticon DuranDuranDuran Oxygenfad Abel Cain Pleasure Horse Terminal 11 Otto Von Shirach Phthylocyanine and 8FM to an extent. (even Richard Devine is more interesting than the Snares Man) It's a big world out there friends. I'm sure I missed many more. |
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nice link! Thanks. I had a lovely morning, slept late drank coffe and listened to new snares whilst doing some "research" |
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Not to show any disrespect to the mentioned artists, but I don't think any of them has has made anything of the same quality as vsnares, at least that I've heard as of now. And I'm really tired of people "hating" aphex, ae, vsnares etc. And I'm tired of people that always expect something 200% innovative and paradigm-shifting everytime somebody makes a new album,, you have to understand that sometimes artists find "their" music and make more of the music they like to make and/or listen to. Sometimes their taste/music evolves, sometimes not. |
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And of course it's ok to not like any music, but that's not the same as calling it bad music. You can dislike vsnares' as much as you feel like, but however "bad" it is I'm pretty sure he would sequence the shirt off almost anyone you list, no matter what genre. And I'm not really that much of a vsnares fan anymore, but that's because my taste has shifted, not his artistic-skill. |
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Agreed (mostly) - Though I have to say he simply has nothing on Vytear. Ask Ken (8FM). I was there when I saw his jaw hit the fucking ground as Vytear straight up owned anything and everything he (and we) had ever heard up till that point. Now as for Snares, I don't think its all bad. Actually, i think HCCBU was one of the finest records of 2004. Though mind you, that was the one album he dropped unlike any of his others and beyond the typical 4 month release schedule he normally follows. If anyone asked him which record he spent the most time on, I'm sure he'd say that one. And it shows. Anyways, I just said that he is played out. Seriously, given the sheer volume of releases he has done and the sheer LACK of exploration between them, something is alarmingly suspicious. And don't fool yourselves, a couple of sampled violins doesnt constiture broadening ones horizons. Ultimately, he's not an idiot. At this point he can demand 10g's per record, b/c he knows people will buy his shit no matter what. You know why? Because its formulaic and that makes this entire debate utterly ironic.. considering any record, separate from the context of the others, seems to challenge formula up and down. |
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Yes, I agree that HCCBU is probably his finest record. But as opposed to others, I never really liked Rossz' at all, except for the first seconds after I heard the previews over at planet-mu. And yes, he has a very formularic syle, so eventually I imagine he's going to move on to something else. But if I was in his position I would of course be happy to sell away all the stuff I had lying around on my computer etc. before doing even more, new music. I simply just don't listen to the styles I don't like, instead of accusing them of being crap(that's actually what I'm ranting about, well that and the whole underground vs commercial artists-attitude that makes everyone hate aphex etc.) like so many people tend to do. |
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true. Its interesting you said that though. I know a guy who's friend was Aaron's roomate. He said his friend would always email him saying he got the "new shit" from snares-man himself. Apparently, according to him (and i know what you are thinking he-said-she-said bullshit right?, but this guy I am speaking about is on n5md and quite reputable so just follow...) anyways, according to him, Aaron releases EVERYTHING he does. Just think about that for a moment. When 1st hand account can attest to the fact that the man himself knows this is all relative, I suggest we all take a step back. |
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snares is a love hate thing. i like his stuff...mostly all of it. there are exceptions some tracks i've listen to once and never again. others i've spent entire days listening to. yes a typical vsnares track is: boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom [RANDOM SAMPLEorBREAK mashup] boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom etc. i'm not going to sit here and say its anything ground breaking/etc. but its fast, loud, agressive, and its well thought out, always. weather you think it is or not. i hate hearing bitches cry about how much music he releases...and which ones are better. That whole argument just boils down to a bunch of people that are really really jealous that someone can produce a record that quick and write new material so fast...i think Aaron likes what he does and it shows and if he wants to release a binder of 50 CD's every two weeks from now til the end of this year SO FUCKING WHAT!! more music i enjoy listening to for me to enjoy. on another note, yes, it would be cool if snares did a beatless album or something different than his normal thing. but i doubt it would ever happen. i really don't know what everyones problem on this board is. i really think its only on this forum too. the majority of you hate snares...and god forbid you bring up the name round here. yet, while most of you write really fucked up posts about his music and how much you hate it, i've seen a folder in most of your soulseek directories that say VENETIAN SNARES, u bit |
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ches |
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yeah I agree, the snares hating is stupid. as are allot of things on this board. and it is indeed of jealousy I believe. and practicly everyone in the breakcore scene are trying to copy him. (well not everyone, but allot). I like snares. but the last one didn't really grab me. I need to give it a good listen though. but I'm not saying it's bad or anything. I just don't like it right now. |
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well, i've been trying to get into snares - but find it hard work. i've got hccbu, its ok, but i dunno. a bit retarded-ish. i just not into the superfast mental music thing. gimme some SND instead. |
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well sometimes I do like it b/c occasionally I have this uncontrollable urge to punch myself in the face. Snares' music goes along well with that sometimes. esp. Songs About My Cats and HCCBU Now that I think about it, I do like most of Snares stuff. I just dont like the fact that I'm not quite challenged as a listener anymore. Perhaps thats just personal preference. Its kinda like porno. Most of it is good and tolerable, but when it comes down to it, its just all about moving around real fast. |
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listened to rossz csillag last night and that has some nice production on it. the strings really sound great, i like how he has a couple beatless tracks on there. BUT i must say második galamb (track 7) has an amazing ending. listen to it. also, the meathole samples here didn't hit me to well. sort of just meh about it. i'll d/l and give it a better listen. |
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Snares is a really nice guy who (at times) makes some brilliant music, but his style has become somewhat of a gimmick these days. Of course, he makes whatever he wants to make, so it's not like he's doing this to piss us off or anything, but I think he should sit back and work dilligently for about a year or two, not releasing anything in the meantime. You know, really analyzing his output and coming up with some new perspectives. Now, I doubt that his economy would allow this, but if it was possible, I'd like to see him blow our minds on a 2-3 year basis rather than oversaturating us with 200bpm breakcore once every few months. His sound would definitely benefit from it, as he would probably gain enough new influences and ideas over the course of a couple of years to start building on something fresh. I do like a lot of his albums, especially HCCBU, Higgins, Find Candace and Printf, but I think it would be awesome if he decided to put more surprises into his music instead of taking us for the same ride again and again. thankyouforyourattentionbye. |
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i agree with some of the things you mentioned in your post. i wouldn't mind it either if he focused on quality instead of quantity but, if he's just doing this to survive i doubt he could afford to take a 2 year vacation. maybe he could do a double disc, one disc just pure plain punch in the face snares and then another disc with experiemtal stuff...while still releasing an ep here or there to keep us crackaddict fans going. maybe a bunch of jazz singles until the big one drops. i'd love to see him or aphex make 5.1 surround sound music disc. i know its probably more of a pain in the ass to make, but it almost seems like it would be a step up to do something a little different like that. i dunno. i'm watching this exile NI video and i'm foamin at the mouth to get my hands on a copy of that software.... :) |
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I saw that Exile vid. It seems useful, but something anyone could build in reaktor given the right amount of time. Its prob. versatile to make several like sounding songs in a genre or performing live with, but it doesnt compete with the individually uniquie Max Patches autechre uses when composing each (pre-untilted) track. |
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AHAHAH -- Snares just using the Amen Break ? Sheesh, that's ridiculous - his beats are miracles of dedicated programming and his atmospheres are superbly welded globs of dark-matter... Snares haters don't actually LISTEN to his music, they just skim the surface and dismiss it like chart-listening hussies. |
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