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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-08 09:47 [#01687861]
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classic case of someone / something becoming famous through controversy. total lack of talent.
"LIFE SUCKS SCUM FUCK"
yeah good one, gg. genius. really upset you're dead and all that. christ.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-08-08 09:48 [#01687863]
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Sid Vicious MK2.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-08-08 10:11 [#01687875]
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no offense implied, redrum, but just like every other aspect of low art, you just don't seem to get it.
here you go:
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-08 10:16 [#01687877]
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being obscene is an art?
No, I'm afraid I don't get it. Please elaborate on how Allin was talented and deserves the following he got by means of creating controversy.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-08 10:18 [#01687878]
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gg allin is paris hilton:
they're both famous for reasons that shouldn't honour them with fame.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-08-08 10:24 [#01687884]
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Don't compare him to Paris Hilton.
I really don't get why everyone is so down on her.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-08-08 10:30 [#01687890]
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Have you ever seen more than 3 seconds of that reality TV show following her and her equally thick mate around?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-08-08 10:31 [#01687891]
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she became incredibly famous for having lots of money and then continued to fortify her fame by making a complete caricature out of herself.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-08 10:32 [#01687893]
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and the sex tape
don't forget the sex tape. that was the first i'd ever heard of her.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-08-08 10:33 [#01687894]
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all i'm saying is: celebrity through notoriety is undeserved.
this is especially the case in that fucker allin's case, when he's bound to be known as a "musician" when really he's just a circus freakshow... a performer of sick acts perhaps, but definitely not an artist.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-08-08 10:59 [#01687910]
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gg allin was punk as fuck
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-08-08 11:01 [#01687912]
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I guess there are qualities about him that i like. His shows were dangerous and crazy. You never knew if he was going to kick your ass while singing.
He was one of the most controversial people in the scene ever. Inciting a riot at one of the shows. etc etc
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-08-08 11:12 [#01687924]
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i prefer my art without the threat of having feces thrown at me, being sexually assaulted or beaten.
absent the masochism of the gg allin live experience, i'm not sure there was ever any reason at all to listen to his records, except maybe to sit and relish the thought of the masochism of the gg allin live experience.
all notoriety, zero substance, imho.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-08-08 11:18 [#01687928]
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undeserrved how? fame is fame. someone who does outrrageous things is equally 'deserrving' of fame as someone who prresents a daytime TV show.
how is it wrrong... and who exactly is in the wrrong?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-08-08 11:20 [#01687929]
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redrum and pz points in this thread: still totally missing the point. i will give you a hint. :o
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-08-08 11:22 [#01687930]
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Just out of interest.... why are we reappraising gg allin at the moment? I remmeber seeing some footage of some concert of his where the cops broke in and he ran out naked into the streets. He's a bit hardcore for me... there's a bit in one of the CKY videos where one of the members of CKY (the band) pays homage to gg allin by sitting on his grave drinking a whole bottle of Jack Daniels and listening to his music on a discman, then getting up and urinating on the tombstone. It was quite touching.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-08-08 11:28 [#01687932]
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just because i think his "performance art" seems worthless (to me personally) does not mean that i am missing the point.
sheesh.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-08-08 11:28 [#01687933]
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G. G. Allin was and still is a verry affecting charracterr. Mentally unstable, clearrly. He's despicable at best, but isn't that the point.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-08-08 11:30 [#01687935]
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I find being rrepulsed quite rrefrreshing when i'm in the mood. Just like I find it rrefrreshing to be scarrrred shitless in a cinema everry so often.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-08-08 11:32 [#01687936]
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He's using arrt to prrovoke an emotional rresponse. You don't have to like it but you have to accept that what he's doing is perrfectly valid.
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xceque
on 2005-08-08 11:36 [#01687940]
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Very true. And if I say I don't like it and that it's trying to hard to be daring and shocking will you believe me and not assume I just don't get it?
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xceque
on 2005-08-08 11:36 [#01687942]
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*trying too hard. curse my keyboard (yes it's my keyboards fault)
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-08-08 11:38 [#01687943]
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keyboards fault, I've hearrd it all now *rrolleyes*
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-08-08 11:42 [#01687947]
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of course, that means accepting anything that anyone does and labels "performance art" as "valid."
i blow smoke in your face and insist that i did no wrong because i did not break any of the seven deadly sins. don't get mad at me mate, it was all part of my new performance series, being an asshole nutjob to everyone i meet.
doesn't this dilute the meaning of "valid"?
i'm playing devil's advocate, to an indefinite degree.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-08-08 11:45 [#01687950]
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G. G. Allin often overr stepped the marrk. I don't condone much of the things he said and did, but in the same way you don't go to an Aphex Twin show if you don't enjoy his music, you didn't go to a G. G. Allin show if you don't get some kind of pleasurre frrom having shit in yourr face.
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xceque
on 2005-08-08 11:45 [#01687951]
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What you are suggesting in sarcasm is true in reality. Such performance art IS art. However that doesn't take away your right to dislike the art.
Or boot the asshole nutjob in his knackers. No, the law takes away that right.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-08-08 11:47 [#01687952]
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absolutely, at last we agree!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-08-08 11:48 [#01687953]
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gg allin was arrested numerous times, his "art" was truly "transgressive," "fearless" and "uncompromising."
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-08-08 12:06 [#01687966]
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GG's fascinating, that's enough for me. He had a very atypical upbrining and life, and I'm glad he's famous, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to read about him. His music sucks, of course.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-08-08 12:27 [#01687984]
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-08-08 12:37 [#01687991]
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we're all gonna die someday
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-08-08 12:51 [#01688015]
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I don't think fame can be undeserved, you do have a point there. she does seem to love being famous, she did seem to want to acquire it.
but her reason for fame is one of the dumbest, wouldn't you agree on that?
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colani
from Retarded (France) on 2005-08-08 12:58 [#01688034]
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oh shit I've only 1.655.431.669 seconds to live...
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-08-08 20:53 [#01688688]
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Seems there was only one GG. Good enough for me.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2005-08-08 22:51 [#01688749]
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there is no reason for anybody to be a celebrity for any reason fuck celebrities i'll fuckin kill a fuckin celebrity mothere fucker die
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-08-09 22:18 [#01689796]
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I wanna die.
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-08-09 22:20 [#01689797]
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"Skinhead - motherfucker, I'll show you whose fucking hardcore - I'll hardcore your ass, right into the pavement!"
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-08-09 22:22 [#01689798]
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GG has always made me laugh. More than I can say for most people in this world. Live on your own terms and dare to be proud to expose your three inch cock to everyone in the room.
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