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The problem with nihilism is the same as with Berkeley's idealism: reality shock. Once I get hungry or sick I'll beg for Mom, forgetting all nihilistic principles. :( |
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1. smack head against wall until bloodied 2. repeat until unconscious |
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I'm getting sick of the word 'angst'. Can't we switch the letters around to 'gants'. hee hee gants graf |
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kmfdm "angst" good cd i love monoid |
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Are you a philosophy student ? Which year ? And, where is the love thread ? |
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No i'm not. And the love thread is gone....not enuff love I guess |
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Nihilism does not exist. Negating every value ends with negating life. You cannot negate life. |
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Yes you can. |
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yeah exactly, don't discourage the little bastard. :D |
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No, it's not negation. It's neither assertion nor negation. |
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Nihilism is pointless. |
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that seems to be the point. what |
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Yes, that was my point - it argues against itself. |
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But wouldn't that just prove itself? |
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I don't believe so. |
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That's why you shouldn't bother arguing with it. Just nod your head politely and walk away. |
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im angry at being angry, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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[Chorus] Now when you climb Into your bed tonight And when you lock And hold the door Just think of those Out in the cold and dark 'Cause there is not enough love to go round Now when you climb [fade] And when you lock [fade] Just think of those out in the cold and dark 'Cause there is not enough love to go round. [Maxi Jazz] Until you wake up You people need a shake up You take up so much time Worrying, Scurrying, Here, there, Losing your hear No money to spare No love to share No wonder you appear under pressure from here You look fresh, yeah But all I got is dirt in my hear My nightmares manifest, But I can escape Yours is in your chest With no formal shape The tape is running I push the button to send Upon each other we all depend Message end Whoever asks my name Or where I came from People fear contamination If they chary too long I carry a strong Sin of despair It's in the air I¡¯m broken and hard to repair I may mistaken be But I patiently wait On the pad to humanity I sit at the gates [Chorus] Now when you climb Into your bed tonight And when you lock And hold the door Just think of those Out in the cold and dark 'Cause there is not enough love to go round Now when you climb Into your bed tonight And when you lock And hold the door Just think of those Out in the cold and dark 'Cause there is not enough love to go round [Maxi Jazz] Dirty, Cold, Hurting, Soul, Down the river My liver in bad condition Like my skin Rain falling, once again I'm in my bed Hurt the time in I'm gonna struggle for air There's hair in my food When I get it usually someone already half ate it Touch it, not to let it Get me down But my head starting to pad People go round, and round and round From one I get a cigarette A little more love found But the ground is still wet My chief are chattering And there's a spattering of seeds Sometimes I lose all feeling in my feet When I sleep I'll do my deep in the mainstream But unaccountabl |
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you're a Christian, aren't you? :P |
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you should have skipped the quenstionmarks: Nihilism: Overrated Teenage Angst that's about it, yes. no need for arguing here. it's just pointless, isn't it? |
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nihilism is an excuse to be as selfish as you want. it's complete bullshit and is self defeating. |
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Monoid !! |
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jesus loves me. |
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big deal, he loves everybody. |
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Particularly your bumhole. |
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me too! :) ! |
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yes marlowe, Particularly my bumhole. |
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lucky guess |
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what's with all the closed topics? |
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Nihilism is good for a while. Christ is hard fucking Jesus while Mahomet is seeng it all... Hopefully God is here too... I hope he is not omniscient, that suker.. Anyway I would like to shit God's face, how do I do ? That horrible person... |
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Everybody needs to love tragedys bumhole |
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Except people who use the word "angst" in anything other than an ironic sense. |
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God gets a lot of blame for stuff human beings have done... I wonder if it hurts his/her/its feelings |
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I wouldn't tar it with the same brush as idealism... Problem is that it's a big presumption on our part to assume that it's any less logical than the existance of an objective reality which does exist independant of subjective observation -> (Something which we only ever presume emerges from objective matter because of the dominance of this neo-platonism in current western "rationality"... In actual fact, the only thing we can ever know directly is our own awareness - Everything else is only known to us as a mental construct, and could only have any sort of objective existance if consciousness was innately connected to, or one with, matter in some way - So why do we choose to paint ourselves out of existance and then presume it's "rational" to do so?) If there is an objective reality it's just quantum foam... Not meaning to sound nihilistic - This same substance unfolds space, energy, matter, consciousness, art, music, etc... If there wasn't meaning we shouldn't be able to debate this topic. |
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imo nihilism is the only way to go - more like 'living with nihilism, the new ideal' total bullshit and truth, by me. |
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teen age gnats? |
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I think therefore I am. |
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I don't know why that statement is so popular because it's bollocks. I seem to believe I think therefore I posit that I may be. |
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You're right in strictly objective terms - Because we can't see or quantify thought or consciousness objectively... Then again, because our own personal existance is purely defined by our awareness(/thoughts), we can't prove that anything exists outside of subjectivity either... So what's the weaker arguement??? The great renaissance philosopher Tommaso Campanella sums this up: "the only trustworthy datum of experience is the feeling of one's own existance, a feeling that withstands any rational doubt." "I" think therefore "I" am, defines "I" in terms of what the universe knows about itself - The only parts of "I" which have personal identity are the parts that fall under the window of consciousness (/thought)... Behaviours and brain function, or dysfunction, outside of conscious control or awareness are as much detached from "I" an I am from a random Israeli taxi driver on the other side of the world... So it stops us dealing with personal existance in strictly biologica/material terms... Afterall, every atom in your body is in constant exchange with the cosmos... In 7 years time, not a single part of the physical "you" will be there - It'll all be replaced... And if we were to put a limit on the rate of replacement, we know we'd be imposing bizarre subjective rules on personal existance... Identity can only be defined through reference points consciousness has about itself... If you were to download your memory into someone else at your point of death, there's no test, subjective or objective, to say that it's not you jumping bodies... Only our own subjective labelling system would argue with that point - But what logic or reason would it have to back that up??? |
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Logic and Reason are severely over-rated in the West. |
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My favorite: "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein |
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Nihilism is a one-trick pony I thinxxorz |
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Nihilist, me I just not convinced of a fundamental need for a logical framework, to say, have this discussion, or further, for our perceived reality to exist. Where does this need come from? |
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This need for meaning, it's just the underpinning of theology, deism(, and completely unfounded). Or maybe deism, theology is more correct. |
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And typos are unfortunate and I apologize |
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I am studying this at the moment. It is making me depressed. |
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what you said still just boils back down to the shorter version... |
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